Ancestors

Written by sc_griffith@awful.systems on 2025-01-27 at 20:32

elon musk's obsession with the tic tac toe of video games

https://awful.systems/post/3388357

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sc_griffith@awful.systems

Written by zeezee@slrpnk.net on 2025-01-28 at 00:48

I just want to focus on this extremely ridiculous quote as if one understands how unfathomably silly it is - it becomes impossible to take anything elmo says seriously (not that you should need more proof)

What elmo is trying to talk about is called game-tree complexity - the number of possible games based on the number of possible moves.

For checkers this is 10^54 - massive but obviously computable (took 18 years and finished in 2007)

For chess this is 10^120 - called the Shannon number is unimaginably massive - like if we counted it in Planck times (smallest unit of time) - checkers’ number would convert to about 300 years - chess on the other hand comes out to around 10^58 universe ages

What’s more - there’s about 10^80 atoms in the universe - so it’s physically impossible to store that many game states in a usable manner to compute a full solution of chess.

Even giving him the biggest benefit of the doubt and turning the whole observable universe into a black hole (the most information dense object imaginable) the Bekenstein bound still dictates you only have 10^96 bits to work with so it appears it’s physically impossible to compute and store a full solution of chess.

Overall this proves the point of this post - elmo literally does not believe he lives in the real world and any proof otherwise will get rejected by his solipsistic brain.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from zeezee@slrpnk.net

Toot

Written by khalid_salad on 2025-01-29 at 14:18

The way Checkers was solved was actually pretty cool. That he dismisses chess for this reason (even though it hasn’t even been solved) speaks to the kind of dorky dipshit he is.

PS: this solution was considered AI in 2007.

[Schaeffer] carried out a mere 10^14^ calculations to complete the proof in under two decades. “This pushes the envelope as far as artificial intelligence is concerned,” he says.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from khalid_salad@awful.systems

Descendants