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Written by The Dread Slender Gnome on 2025-01-27 at 21:42

I can sort of understand the woke left's insistence that immigrants should be taken in, on the basis that they fundamentally don't believe national borders should be considered important, and people should have the right to move from one country to another at will. Based on this, I can sort of understand their insistence that illegal immigrants shouldn't be deported either.

But what I really, really don't understand, is the insistence that dangerous, hardened criminals should not be deported, or even arrested, if they are immigrants.

I'm not talking about suspects either, but proven ganbangers and other career criminals.

Yet Andy Ngo's stream is full of reports of how wokesters are publishing ICE agents' actions and locations, in order to actively stop them from arresting and deporting these actual dangerous criminals.

I can sort of understand, logically, believing that people should be allowed to stay because they should have the right to live in another country if they so wish. But I can't see what kind of logic could possibly lead to "these members of a hyper-violent Latin American gang must not be arrested/deported".

The only thing I can see leading to this is a knee-jerk "ICE bad" reaction, which at this point amounts to a thought-terminating cliche.

It just makes no sense.

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Written by Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?) on 2025-01-27 at 23:57

@Gnomeshatecheese everyone knows who their bad guy is and all nuance is destroyed, or at least irrelevant.

i think the rational argument for keeping criminal illegal immigrants is, they are (sometimes? what percentage?) being blackmailed by organized crime in their home country. taking pawns doesn't win a chess match, and we could instead use resources to magically rehabilitate them (effective strategies yet to be discovered).

but who cares really, like all these Issues its a shitshow that is conveniently too complex to have a sensible opinion.

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Written by Christmas Sun on 2025-01-27 at 23:58

@why @Gnomeshatecheese you literally can just deport

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Written by Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?) on 2025-01-28 at 00:01

@sun @Gnomeshatecheese what good does that do, theyll just send them back over the border with an even higher debt to repay

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Written by Christmas Sun on 2025-01-28 at 00:05

@why @Gnomeshatecheese it's one part of like a dozen things I'd do. but you can't really secure the border, yeah, border walls etc, I mean like the entire border, no way.

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Written by Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader: on 2025-01-28 at 04:15

@sun @why @Gnomeshatecheese I have solved this years ago on this very network. Sniper tower with a .50cal every 1.5km, four guys per tower taking 8 hours shifts with one being the backup sniper, and with radio equipment to call border patrol to coordinates when they pin down an illegal crosser.

Gear, wages and training for the entire border literally cost less than a single detention facility by published numbers.

Thousands of servicemen would very gladly guard a sniper tower within their own country rather than step on IEDs in sandniggystan in a jewish war.

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Written by lainy on 2025-01-28 at 04:18

@nerthos @sun @why @Gnomeshatecheese This was solved thousands of years ago

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