I can sort of understand the woke left's insistence that immigrants should be taken in, on the basis that they fundamentally don't believe national borders should be considered important, and people should have the right to move from one country to another at will. Based on this, I can sort of understand their insistence that illegal immigrants shouldn't be deported either.
But what I really, really don't understand, is the insistence that dangerous, hardened criminals should not be deported, or even arrested, if they are immigrants.
I'm not talking about suspects either, but proven ganbangers and other career criminals.
Yet Andy Ngo's stream is full of reports of how wokesters are publishing ICE agents' actions and locations, in order to actively stop them from arresting and deporting these actual dangerous criminals.
I can sort of understand, logically, believing that people should be allowed to stay because they should have the right to live in another country if they so wish. But I can't see what kind of logic could possibly lead to "these members of a hyper-violent Latin American gang must not be arrested/deported".
The only thing I can see leading to this is a knee-jerk "ICE bad" reaction, which at this point amounts to a thought-terminating cliche.
It just makes no sense.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
@Gnomeshatecheese @sun Is this 100% true though? I have been under the impression that these activists are not aware of how broken some of the laws and processes are which allows known criminals to be released into the public instead of deported. So they just end up looking like morons
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from feld@friedcheese.us
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese I think their rationalization is that nothing should be permitted or else it gives power to the legitimacy of deportation
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world
@sun @Gnomeshatecheese yeah but like how many people actually believe that?
The internet is great at making something seem like there's a majority / consensus around something when in reality it's a pretty niche opinion
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from feld@friedcheese.us
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese I think the people that protest this stuff are a small minority. most people think you shouldn't be here illegally in my experience but this has a midwestern bias
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world
@sun @Gnomeshatecheese I still think it's a shame Biden or even Obama didn't go after all the farm workers. If you have ICE start there it will send shockwaves through the GOP as all their farmers are now helpless. If they want their workers back they gotta vote to get these people on a fast track for work visas
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from feld@friedcheese.us
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese I don't think it would work because implicitly you are not paying these people legal wages or giving them legal working conditions.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world
@sun @Gnomeshatecheese does that matter though? It will force the GOP to defend the illegal workers. You gotta take the opportunity to corner them and make them capitulate.
They can't go on TV and say "but no we need these illegals, you can't enforce immigration laws". It would destroy their reputations.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from feld@friedcheese.us
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese republican party has two factions, the business faction is totally okay with illegal labor. so every republican says they are against illegal immigration because actual voters are against it (even if they wouldn't like the consequences of deportation.) but then nothing ever gets done because the business republicans won't let it happen.
it's happening now because now is an unusual time and trump is an unusual republican.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese this all makes sense when you understand that republican voters are basically rubes and republican politicians don't give a single fuck about them.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world
@sun @Gnomeshatecheese That's why I'm saying the Dems could have forced those Republicans to go on the record saying they are OK with the illegal labor
The only option then is to get them legal status or deport them and hurt the GOP voters.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from feld@friedcheese.us
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese democrats and republicans thought they could just never do what people wanted, forever, and they are now we are experiencing the consequences of that
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world
@sun @Gnomeshatecheese the Dems are really really bad at leveraging the GOP voters against the GOP when there have been so many opportunities to fracture them over these kinds of issues.
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from feld@friedcheese.us
@feld @Gnomeshatecheese I do think most of them are basically on the same team. The have huge disagreements about many things, but they have class solidarity (they are rich)
=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sun@shitposter.world This content has been proxied by September (3851b).Proxy Information
text/gemini