Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 2nd February 2025
https://awful.systems/post/3382551
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(Reposting from the last thread)
Days since last open source issue tracker pollution by annoying nerds: zero
My investigation tracked to you [Outlier.ai] as the source of problems - where your instructional videos are tricking people into creating those issues to - apparently train your AI.
I couldn’t locate these particular instructional videos, but from what I can gather outlier.ai farms out various “tasks” to internet gig workers as part of some sort of AI training scheme.
Bonus terribleness: one of the tasks a few months back was apparently to wear a head mounted camera “device” to record ones every waking moment
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I had to read “Uber for AI code data” so now you do too.
Wow, what a fractal of cursed meaning. I don’t even understand what it really means, but it feels like understanding it any further would cause considerable psychic damage.
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Well I can’t translate it but if you search for it… holy smokes are search engines amusingly bad at indexing federated content.
(That random other Lemmy instance is actually doing the right thing here since it includes the right link rel canonical, so I guess Google just hasn’t caught up yet or something)
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In the process of looking for ways to link up with homeschool parents that aren’t doing it for culty reasons, I accidentally discovered the existence of a small but active subreddit for “progressive monarchists”. It’s titled r/progressivemonarchists, because their imagination in naming conventions only slightly outatrips their imagination for forms of government. Given how our usual sneer fodder overlaps with nrx I figured there are others here who I can inflict this headache on.
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Quality shitpost, I could imagine some thirteen year old actually believing this.
Yea, no fascism whatsoever took place in the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, or Belgium during WW2, in which they were all very successfully avoiding being occupied by fascists.
Extra points to Spain who already avoided succumbing to their own homegrown brand of fascism before the Nazi German invasion of Poland, and where they avoided having fascists in power all the way until the 1970s. There’s a book I quite like about the war where that happened called Homage to Catalonia. I wonder if Orwell ever read it.
Missing from the list is Italy, which is no longer a constitutional monarchy, but used to be until 1946, which is why they were so good at avoiding fascism they even named it.
This might take the cake for the dumbest take I’ve seen from George Orwell and not for a lack of competition.
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let’s also not forget these very liberal and not at all nazi-collaborating kingdoms of Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Thailand and Japan. honorable mentions to Cambodia that very successfully avoided Pol Pot and Iran that very successfully avoided islamic revolution
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Oh yeah Britain didn’t become fascist, they just imposed brutal imperialist exploitation on colonies in Asia and Africa lol. It’s not fascism if you exploit it!
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Fascism really is “we have imperialism at home”
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i would love to read someone more familiar with historical fascism and imperialism who is able to articulate the link between the two. like, an analysis of imperialism as the construction and maintenance of borders across which exploitation is enforced and economic value is extracted – paired with the observation of fascism as the attempts to construct borders “across peoples” from within the imperial core
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is it a real quote from Orwell or just something someone made up?
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seems to be a real quote en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchism#Liberty
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Yeah then it is a shitty take.
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A really hot take for sure. Apparently Orwell did at least say this, at least according to Wikipedia (I was doubtful initially), which is weird, but I also feel that Orwell is often misrepresented and we are probably missing context. For one, Orwell was a socialist and yet is somehow presented as a hero by Raeganists and the such. I suspect there might be context missing.
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оф, интерфейсът е много смотан. нали получи отговор на това съобщение?
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I screenshot this the other day and forgot to post it. Well, enjoy.]
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i wonder which endocrine systems are disrupted by not having your head sufficiently stuffed into a toilet before being old enough to type words into nazitter dot com
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Today on highlighting random rat posts from ACX:
(Current first post on today’s SSC open thread)
On slightly more relevant news the main post is scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major publication so he can pitch an op-ed by a notable ex-OpenAI researcher that will be ghost-written by him (meaning siskind) on the subject of how they (the ex researcher) opened a forecast market that predicts ASI by the end of Trump’s term, so be on the lookout for that when it materializes I guess.
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scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major news publication
how about the New York Times
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NYT and WaPo are his specific examples. He also wants a connection to “a policy/defense/intelligence/foreign affairs journal/magazine” if possible.
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well I guess the NYT is auditioning the Völkisher Beobachter rôle so that tracks
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Does scoot actually know how computers work? Asking for a friend.
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Good news everyone: A new tarpit to trap LLM scrapers just dropped
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gives a hell of a kicker to the numbers I found
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Spotted in the Wild:
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Me: Oh boy, I can’t wait to see what my favorite thinkers of the EA movement will come up with this week :)
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Next Sunday when I go to my EA priest’s group home, I will admit to having invoked the chain rule to compute a gradient 1 trillion times since my last confessional. For this I will do penance for the 8 trillion future lives I have snuffed out and whose utility has been consumed by the basilisk.
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Indulge yourself! Try an electric_monk o7 subscription today!
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dude missed that Trump won and the people in power are Nazi pedophiles
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engage in societal blackmail to anyone who’s ever heard the words TensorFlow.
no no wait this is geoff’s stopped clock moment
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Live: Chinese AI bot DeepSeek sparks US market turmoil, wiping $500bn off major tech firm
Shares for leading US chip-maker Nvidia dropped more than 15% after the emergence of DeepSeek, a low-cost Chinese AI bot.
www.bbc.com/news/live/cjr85l2e4l4t
lmao
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Is it too early to hope that this is the beginning of the end of the bubble?
Also, does someone know why broadcom was also hit so hard? Is it because they make various networking-related chips used in datacenter infrastructure?
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When hedge funds decide to flip the switch on something the reaction never looks rational. Meta was green today ffs.
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Folks around here told me AI wasn’t dangerous 😰 ; fellas I just witnessed a rogue Chinese AI do 1 trillion dollars of damage to the US stock market 😭 /s
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is that Link??
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vtdigger.org/…/prosecutor-says-woman-charged-in-f…
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excuse me, what the fuck is this
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Either Baader-Meinhoff or Manson family, not sure which.
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Also Andy Ngo has now picked this up and its being spun as a purely trans terror cell thing.
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fuck
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i don’t think that RAF dropped acid but in revolutionary way
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They’re probably talking about Ziz’s group. The double homicide in Pennsylvania is likely the murder of Jamie Zajko’s parents referenced in this LW post, and the Vallejo county homicide is the landlord they had a fatal altercation with and who was killed recently.
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That was my conclusion as well.
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landlord was killed in 2022, but recently they killed someone who shot one of zizians back then
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No no that’s right, landlord shot one of them and got a sword put through him but he survived. He was stabbed to death recently.
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noted, edited
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openvallejo.org/…/suspects-in-killings-of-vallejo…
New developments
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Pouring one out for the local-news reporters who have to figure out what the fuck “timeless decision theory” could possibly mean.
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Taylor said the group believes in timeless decision theory, a Rationalist belief suggesting that human decisions and their effects are mathematically quantifiable.
Seems like they gave up early if they don’t bring up how it was developed specifically for deals with the (acausal, robotic) devil.
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I kicked them a donation just for that
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This is a good article, thanks for posting.
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This is from 2023 but when debugging an xfce issue this week I came across this forum post: forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=16835
The user is competent enough to use xfce with Debian, but too incompetent to understand debug symbols is not a violation of privacy.
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I get being privacy conscious and that sharing crash dumps and logs you don’t really understand yourself can be scary. Making demands of urgent free tech support from strangers is just rude, though.
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my least favorite thing about old forums, which carried over to a lot of open source spaces, is how little moderation there is. coming into the help forum with a “no fuck you help me the way I want” attitude should probably be an instant ban and “what the fuck is wrong with you” mod note, cause that’s the exact type of shit that causes the community to burn out quick, and it decreases the usefulness of the space by a lot. but somehow almost every old forum was moderated by the type of cyberlibertarian who treated every ban like an attack on free speech? so you’d constantly see shit like the mod popping in to weakly waggle their finger at the crackpot who’s posting weird conspiracy shit to every thread (which generally caused the crackpot to play the victim and/or tell the mod to go fuck themselves) instead of taking a stand and banning the fucker
and now those crackpots have metamorphosed into full fascists and act like banning them from your GitHub is an international incident, cause they almost never receive any pushback at all
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Hey, did you know of you own an old forum full of interesting posts from back in the day when humans wrote stuff, you can just attach ai bots to dead accounts and have them post backdated slop for, uh, reasons?
hallofdreams.org/posts/physicsforums/
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this was mentioned in last week’s thread
what I don’t get is why the admins chose to both backdate the entries and re-use poster’s handles. If they’d just tried to “close” open questions using GenAI with the current date and a robot user it would still be shit but not quite as deceptive
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The whole thing is just weirdly incompetent. Maybe they just had everything configured wrong and accidentally deployed sone throwaway tests to production? I could almost see it as a way to poison scrapers, given that there are some odd visibility settings on the slop posts, though the owner’s shiftiness and dubious explanations suggest it wasn’t anything so worthy.
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And on a less downbeat and significantly more puerile note, Dan Fixes Coin Ops makes a nice analogy for companies integrating ai into their product.
retro.social/@ifixcoinops/112847573063473767
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that thread is a work of genius and answers what the next tech boom needs to be
dicks in mousetraps I MEAN whatever wastes electricity most, preferably with Nvidia cards
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