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Written by Rose on 2025-01-25 at 17:50

My partner's friend group has kinda fallen down a "all men suck, except for you, you know" pipeline and it's like, this implied thing that trans men don't really "count" that's really bugging both of us.

Like, there has to be a worldview that doesn't treat men as irredeemable monsters, right?

Is there some, like, theory we can read to help clarify our thoughts on this?

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Written by Rose on 2025-01-25 at 17:54

I know I'm probably wording this wrong but it just keeps coming up

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Written by Rose on 2025-01-25 at 17:55

Like, I realize how this train of thought could lead into "not all men" garbage but like... There's gotta be a place for guys to be moral beings right??

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Written by Michael on 2025-01-25 at 18:33

@Modernmodron yeah, the whole “men suck” thing makes me very uncomfortable because it ignores that trans men exist and there’s a whole unspoken “well, nb people are fine too but if you look too masc then well hmmmm” thing in the air

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Written by max on 2025-01-25 at 19:24

@MichaelKlamerus @Modernmodron it's also exclusionary of closeted/"not-femme-enough" trans women as well... just a terfy stance in general imo

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