Ancestors

Written by Unhinged Chaos Demon on 2025-01-23 at 18:07

Last boost: Seeing some posts about AI replacing artists to make more money and I don't want to call anyone out on that because I believe it's true, but it is way deeper and more depressing than that, so I thought I'd write about that real quick off thread.

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Toot

Written by Unhinged Chaos Demon on 2025-01-23 at 18:11

Using AI to replace artists is a money making decision, sure, but it's also more deeply intentional intentional. It's a systematic decision that promotes an accepted level of oppression.

AI cannot create art, it can only cobble together the past. AI takes works that have already been done and performs a mathematical algorithm to create works that optimize an equation based on that input. It does not feel pain, it does not remember the feeling of wind coming off a lake in the summer, it does not worry about a loved one.

It is math. It is an equation. It takes inputs, and performs matrix algebra to create an output. That's vitally important to remember because it can only input what has been done. It cannot input what it hopes for, what it dreams about, it can only input the past.

Please let that sink in. AI is absolutely and essentially coded conservatism.

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Descendants

Written by Unhinged Chaos Demon on 2025-01-23 at 18:16

Artists reach into. Artists reach forward. Artists dream and wish and hope. AI can do none of these things–nor do we, in any real way, want it to.

But understand this: It is absolutely intentional that AI is being shoved into everything, and that it is replacing artists.

Because oppressive structures cannot survive artists. Artists can not only show the truth, they can hope for a better truth, and it is up to the artists to do that.

Toni Morrison wrote eloquently about that a generation ago.

"…And since not history, not anthropology, not social sciences seem capable in a strong and consistent way to grapple with that problem, it may very well be left to the artists to do it. For art focuses on the single grain of rice, the tree-shaped scar, and the names of people, not only the

number that arrived…"

But if you don't want the truth shown, if you don't want the memory of an individual's pain, if you don't want hope, you need something other than an artist.

AI is not only a way to make money, it is a way to fundamentally encode the past as a sterile, disconnected, and automated truth that some people are trying desperately to hold on to.

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Written by Nicola Elle 🏳️‍⚧️ on 2025-01-23 at 18:57

@FinalGirl Reminded of a fun trivia question.

Can anyone name Beethoven’s most popular and monetarily successful work he made in his lifetime?

Nope, not his 5th…

Nope, his 9th might have been a final triumph, but it was near his end.

Not Moonlight, not Eroica, not Fidelio…

Give up? It’s “Wellington’s Victory”.

Never heard of it? There’s good reason. Its horrible jingoistic dreck meant to take advantage of patriotic fervor after Napoleon’s defeat.

It is, put simply, not art. And once that fervor died down, so did the work itself. It is now largely an unknown work today.

That’s the thing about art. Art has feeling; art has humanity.

Art has staying power.

These creations of AI are disposable, ephemeral. True art will remain.

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Written by Bacchus rouge on 2025-01-23 at 19:07

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It remembers this video I watched. AI empties the context; it's not art. The emptiness represents much more than the filling done by artificial intelligence. The irony is that it's a Podcast made by AI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVWG3dFXUkM

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