Days before she resigned from CISA, I did an exit interview with Jen Easterly. She was steadfastly manifesting the future she wanted for her agency, but buried in there she got real: "Any stepping back of what we've put in place will be to the detriment of the safety and security of the American people" https://www.wired.com/story/big-interview-jen-easterly-cisa-cybersecurity/
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