Pixelfed just overtook Lemmy as the 4th most used Fediverse software.
https://lemmy.world/post/24600766
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People like looking at photos of food and cats more than being railed for having "incorrect* political viewpoints? (/s for anyone not picking up on that btw:-P)
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I literally just got called a snowflake in another thread for saying people should stop posting US politics in general communities.
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I guess I am a snowflake too then, bc to me consent should matter. And while the USA is a part of the world, and also has an oversized effect upon it due to the size of the economy and trade deals and the like, it also can be overwhelming for some, who feel ostracized and left out as if only the big guys (and guns) matter.
But on the other hand, it is known that moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy - it's somewhat baked right into the tools themselves, e.g. removing whole posts rather than merely taking them out of the community lists but allowing people to continue their discussions already begun, as Reddit does.
So you may want to take it upon yourself to either start blocking by keywords (maybe find an app that allows that - I'm not sure which ones), or user accounts that do that, or even find a better community to engage with.
Though I agree with your conclusion: I no longer recommend Lemmy to people irl by virtue of having been burned by that far too many times before. We're toxic AF in this Alt-Left (rather than Alt-Right) "Nazi bar" space, and a lot of the people here are legit those banned from Reddit for exactly that behavior.
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moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy
Moderation isn’t ideal, but absent moderators aren’t going to moderate even with the best tools
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I mean, PieFed has some really cool thoughts about doing exactly that... I'm hoping for a lot there.
As it is, Lemmy is simply a more authoritarian version of Reddit - at the low level I mean, next to the users, who e.g. have no modmail recourse to discuss anything, nor even receive a notification that their content has been removed. Even while it is also open source so allows instance admins greater freedom to implement whatever policies they choose - disabling downvotes for example.
Anyway the more the technology can do the less reliance upon human efforts to moderate. e.g. to facilitate automated community discovery, so that there is lowered barriers to getting away from bad moderators.
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PieFed is highly promising, but I wish you didn’t feel the need to go overboard with criticizing Lemmy. Calling Lemmy a more authoritarian version of reddit… that’s a pretty wild take.
That’s like calling tribal societies more authoritarian than Stalinist or fascist states. There’s no such thing as low-level authoritarianism, that doesn’t make any sense. The users can message the mods directly, and they can go as they wish and do as they please.
You’re still stuck in the reddit mindset where there isn’t anywhere else to go, everything is contained in one closed box controlled by spez. On Lemmy you can go and build your own box, and there are already dozens to choose from that are free and open to join.
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The users can message the mods directly
The lack of modmail and notifications when content is removed is still an issue. Not authoritarian, that seems much, but a better moderation experience from both sides would make the platform better for everyone.
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Nobody is arguing that and it’s irrelevant to my comment. You’re simply pointing out the fact that Lemmy moderation tools are not yet full featured, which is unsurprising given we are still in alpha. This is a completely different criticism than the criticism of authoritarianism which I was defending against.
Please stop responding to every single comment I make, if you wouldn’t mind. I’ve had to reply to you like 50 times over the past week. I’ll let you do your thing and you let me do mine.
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Honestly, for how many tech/open source people are on lemmy its surprising how few community contributions there are to the actual software.
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How would the users message mods directly when the modlog just says "mod"? They could message each one directly, or mass spam all at once, but in general the tools are highly biased to protect mods rather than grant power to the content creators.
On Reddit - which I haven't used since practically the Rexodus so am definitely not shilling for it here - after a post is removed, people can still continue to discuss things in it. So if I typed a long reply to someone it would still make its way to them. Here, it's just poof gone, and a whole long response, possibly not even to OP but to someone else, I can't even send it anymore. All of those discussions that the OP spawned - they are all just gone. Nor can I look them up later if I have the URL - the entire post is gone, not simply removed from the community listing of posts but taken away from the community entirely, all of the work put in, by The People, removed from them by a possibly capricious mod. With no recourse to do much of anything except complain.
I already mentioned how the admins have more freedom yes, so I am talking here strictly below that level, the interactions between mods and content creators.
Remember the context of this thread is me responding to "People still wonder why Lemmy has a bad reputation even in the entire Fediverse..." So my purpose is not to whinge but to discuss practical solutions to improving that reputation. Putting the power back into the hands of The People rather than mods would go a LONG way. Like, even just sending a notification upon removal of a post or comment - there is much that Reddit does that if we did, would help. Or perhaps we can find even better solutions, but not if we don't even so much as try.
Also, even if you did become your own instance admin, that does next to nothing for you if you still want to interact with people on other instances - it allows you to create your own communities on your own instance, but if you want to make comments on OTHER communities on OTHER instances, then everything that I said above still holds true - you still don't get s notification
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How would the users message mods directly when the modlog just says “mod”? They could message each one directly, or mass spam all at once, but in general the tools are highly biased to protect mods rather than grant power to the content creators.
Message one mod who seems active or all the mods at once if you lack patience. It’s not rocket science.
On Reddit - which I haven’t used since practically the Rexodus so am definitely not shilling for it here - after a post is removed, people can still continue to discuss things in it. So[…] With no recourse to do much of anything except complain.
This is false. Any comment that you made in the thread still exists in your profile.
It’s very apparent that you are despairing and miserable. Have you considered that your negativity and that of people like you is more responsible for the failure of this platform to grow than any of the minor complaints you continuously harp on? You’re either an absolute fool or a reddit shill to constantly be arguing that users on Lemmy have less rights than they do on reddit. That is complete and utter nonsense, users on reddit have ZERO rights. Z. E. R. O.
By all means, contribute on github or make some constructive suggestions for features, but to constantly harp on the lack of features for a platform with a small underpaid dev team is just extremely entitled and negative behavior, and helps absolutely no one. It creates a toxic climate on Lemmy for absolutely no reason.
Or go use all the great PieFed communities with their perfect moderators. Oh wait, they don’t exist. The only way for me to understand your constant, pointless attacks and trivial complaints against the only viable alternative to reddit right now is to conclude that you are in fact a reddit shill. Otherwise it doesn’t make any sense to me why you would be acting this way.
Lemmy isn’t perfect. Constantly bitching about it while contributing nothing isn’t making it any better.
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In the case of “DMs on removal of a post / comment” it is possible to do that with the current api of lemmy. But sadly nothing “official” yet. And it wont come anytime soon as lemmy devs officially announced they wont work at any moderation related topics for a while.
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I am not saying that I want DMs enabled to mods, and a modmail, and for a post to remain accessible after being removed, and for notifications to be sent to people upon their content being removed, but the lack of all 4 at the same time is what makes Lemmy difficult for people to handle, and will turn people away (likely back to Reddit).
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Like said if the instance has basic autmation at least 1 is doable.
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