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Written by Cat Hicks on 2025-01-22 at 17:28

A really phenomenal scientist I know who does incredible outreach re: diversity in science asked me if I'd recommend mastodon and if it felt safe or if they'd get a lot of hurtful trolling and what the ratio of cost to benefit felt like to me. And I truly didn't know what my answer to that question was until this moment.

I don't like to give advice on how scientists use platforms because I think every audience is different. But my answer to my friend was no, it's not there yet for scientists.

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Written by Edward L Platt on 2025-01-22 at 17:30

@grimalkina Is the problem mostly on the "too much cost" or "not enough benefit" side? Or roughly 50/50 in your estimation? Also trying to figure out how to advise and help friends

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Written by Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦 on 2025-01-22 at 17:32

@elplatt @grimalkina

Interested about this too. I feel that Mastodon may not be for scientists who aspire to have "reach"

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Written by Cat Hicks on 2025-01-22 at 17:37

@paezha @elplatt even if you are only looking for a small group of community it's important to recognize how some of us are systematically less likely to be represented here which has a chilling effect

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Written by Cat Hicks on 2025-01-22 at 17:39

@paezha @elplatt for instance we talked to about the mental impact of even simply being a lurker and never posting and how it shapes your view of who is doing what. I wouldn't be getting constant dialogue about new papers from young female grad students in psychology if I weren't on bsky

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Written by Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦 on 2025-01-22 at 17:44

@grimalkina @elplatt

But if they were here they would not be under-represented? I guess what I am curious about is, why did they decide to make community there and not here?

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Written by Cat Hicks on 2025-01-22 at 17:53

@paezha @elplatt I think our awareness of these choices is highly social and contextual, and the lack of diversity on this platform creates a self-fulfilling cycle for that. Mastodon is incredibly niche in the first place and even when known then there's not a sense among my particular communities that it's friendly to us. Yes "if they all came here it would be different" but "coming here" isn't neutral. I'm far further along in my career & I've still struggled with the demotivating impact

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Written by Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦 on 2025-01-22 at 18:36

@grimalkina @elplatt

I'm sorry to hear that.

I am not touching BlueSky after it platformed Jessie Singal. But I am also a senior scientist and can afford to not care about my exposure in social media.

Good luck to you! I really hope they don't sell BluSky to Musk in a few years time!

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Written by Cat Hicks on 2025-01-22 at 18:53

@paezha @elplatt it saddens me that you feel the need to respond with such condescension when I'm spending the time and effort to dialogue and reflect earnestly about trying to help my communities right now, where they are, and also to understand human behavior on its merits as the complex choices that are both individual but also systemic. I believe such understanding is necessary to create good change.

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Written by Antonio Páez 🇲🇽🇨🇦 on 2025-01-22 at 19:03

@grimalkina @elplatt

I'm sorry that this saddens you. I agree that conversation is important to create good change. I just don't have the energy to engage in it

For what is worth, most of my scientific community also preferred BlueSky to Mastodon

In this way, my contribution to good change, which is to avoid places that platform people like Jessie Singal, comes at a cost, but a bearable one sinc I pay it from a place of relative privilege

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