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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 14:32

"In the afternoon, Elon Musk spoke to the crowd, throwing two salutes that right-wing extremists, including neo-Nazis, interpreted as Nazi salutes."

~ Heather Cox Richardson

To repeat: "Two salutes THAT RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS, INCLUDING NEO-NAZIS, interpreted as Nazi salutes."

I'm going to assume that right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis know a Nazi salute when they see one better than anyone else knows a Nazi salute.

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/january-20-2025

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 14:33

"WOW! Checking in on hate group chats, and they are absolutely buzzing by what they perceive to be a Roman salute by Elon Musk."

~ Phil Williams quoted by Alex Henderson

I'm going to assume that right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis know a Nazi salute when they see one better than anyone else knows a Nazi salute.

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis

https://www.alternet.org/msn-uk/elon-musk-nazi-salute/

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 14:34

"The first day of Donald Trump’s second presidency hasn’t even ended yet and Nazis are trending on X."

~ Wajahat Ali

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis

https://thelefthook.substack.com/p/yes-elon-musk-did-a-nazi-salute-yes

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 14:34

"Our parents’ generation fought against the Nazis. Now we have someone who was grinning and clapping during an inaugural address, giving the Nazi salute, at an event for the new leader.

~ James Fallows

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis

https://fallows.substack.com/p/the-worst-part-of-a-terrible-speech

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 14:35

"Back in the first Trump presidency, Trump’s critics spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get Trumpers to admit they’d done this or that, to apologize, whatever. This was always a mistake. I don’t need anyone to validate what I saw. I saw it."

~ Josh Marshall

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/elon-goes-full-seig-heil-in-clarifying-moment

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 14:38

Note the valuable new resource that Judd Legum and Caleb Ecarma launched yesterday — Musk Watch. They state,

"Musk Watch will report on how Musk deploys his almost unfathomable wealth."

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis #EconomicElites #SuperRich #oligarchy

https://www.muskwatch.com/about

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Toot

Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 15:19

"This photograph of Elon Musk giving a Nazi salute while standing behind the seal of the President of the United States summarizes the reprehensible first day of the second Trump regime. This gesture was no accident. The richest man in the world gave Hitler’s sieg heil not once, but twice in rapid succession."

~ Steven Beschloss

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis

https://www.americaamerica.news/p/snapshot-fascism-day-one

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Descendants

Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 17:00

"We're living in a media environment where the truth has become nearly impossible to state directly. A billionaire can make a gesture that neo-Nazis celebrate as explicitly supporting their cause, and major news organizations feel compelled to describe it as 'exuberant' rather than risk saying what it actually appeared to be."

~ Parker Molloy

[#]ElonMusk #Trump #Nazis #media #CorporateMedia

https://www.readtpa.com/p/news-organizations-are-tiptoeing

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Written by RealGravitas -Citizen Saboteur on 2025-01-21 at 15:25

@wdlindsy I do think that branding is going to play a big role in the new regime, and we have to counter it, both by rejecting their brand and by coming up with some brands of our own. This is one of the core principles in Snyder's book (On Tyranny) and it can be very effective in bullying the rest of us into complying.

Therefore, (1) we cannot succumb to fear, which leads to pre-obeying, and (2) we must counter the behavior.

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 17:36

@CWilbur Yes. This is an uphill battle, when the means of communication is controlled by Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg. et al.

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Written by Timo on 2025-01-21 at 15:26

@wdlindsy it is as clear as ever: MAGA = Nazi.

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 17:35

@timo21 Yes.

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Written by lin11c on 2025-01-21 at 15:45

@wdlindsy

Absolutely obscene. A complete perversion of our democratic symbols by an illegal immigrant White Supremacist scumbag. That is what MAGAt exults. Violent scumbags. 🤬 ☠️

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 17:34

@lin11c I agree.

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Written by MoiraEve on 2025-01-21 at 17:06

@wdlindsy That kind of aggressive gesture plus the teeth-grabbing of lower lip fools no one. That’s a bully and a thug.

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Written by William Lindsey :toad: on 2025-01-21 at 17:30

@MoiraEve Absolutely. Well-stated.

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Written by MoiraEve on 2025-01-21 at 17:10

@wdlindsy “Why are mainstream outlets so reluctant to state the obvious? The answer lies in our broken defamation laws and the way wealthy individuals can weaponize them against critics. This is a legitimate free speech crisis." >

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Written by MoiraEve on 2025-01-21 at 17:11

@wdlindsy (cont) "Remember what happened to Media Matters? As Andy Craig points out, they 'simply shared screenshots of major corporate ads running next to literally Hitler stuff and he sued them into mass layoffs and got two states to open criminal investigations of them.’ The chilling effect was immediate.” // Now see, that I did not know.

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