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Written by kurtseifried (he/him) on 2025-01-19 at 22:00

So I bought a new garage door opener to replace my old one that’s 40+ years old. It doesn’t come with installation instructions.

You have to download an app that has the instructions. This app has instructions for hundreds of things which is nice, but I’m old and I would like to have a printed set of how to wire this thing up in case that app ever goes away (pro tip: print stuff and tape it to the top or back of that piece of equipment, the next person that has to fix it will thank you. And there’s a good chance you’ll be the next person that has to fix it.).

Also, there is a sticker sealing the documentation that says if I break it, I’m essentially agreeing to the licensing agreement terms of use and then there’s a URL.

@pluralistic this is a really new an interesting way to force people to agree to things.

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Written by kurtseifried (he/him) on 2025-01-19 at 22:02

@pluralistic and it wants to track me.

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Written by Leo on 2025-01-19 at 22:56

@kurtseifried @pluralistic What is even the use case for such a permission? Is it meant for "Digital Wellbeing" type things?

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Written by Jeffrey Rogers 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 on 2025-01-19 at 23:05

@kurtseifried @pluralistic One of these might be a better alternative.

No energy supply needed

Can’t snoop on you

Easy to understand

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Written by kurtseifried (he/him) on 2025-01-20 at 00:35

@Jeffrey @pluralistic yeah.. jammer screwdriver and twist hard. Locks keep honest people out. This is why I have an alarm system.

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Written by Alexander Sosedkin :nixos: on 2025-01-19 at 23:16

@kurtseifried @pluralistic

not so new, not that interesting:

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Written by ottominati on 2025-01-19 at 23:47

@kurtseifried I think I got one of these too...you don't have to use the wifi function, it will work with hardwired switches. You could easily argue that the seal was broken before you got it...

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Written by kurtseifried (he/him) on 2025-01-20 at 00:34

@ottominati oh yeah I know I won’t be using the Wi-Fi with this. But this is literally the cheapest Chamberlain garage door opener available. Like you can’t get one without Wi-Fi anymore.

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Written by the hatter on 2025-01-20 at 17:08

@kurtseifried @pluralistic They've had those stickers on various software CDs/licence key/etc packaging for, well, longer than the time when the install media was a download link. Definitely dodgy, and pretty sure european courts have already ruled this method in particular invalid, aside from the more general 'can't be bound by a set of terms you've not been allowed to inspect' bit (assuming the terms are inside the document).

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