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Written by Mr Salteena is not quite a gentleman on 2025-01-19 at 19:59

My commitment to the open web, which I really believe in, and my opposition to aggressive scrapers and harvesting for AI, are in contradiction, I think, and I don't know how to resolve it. Suggestions welcome.

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Written by 64 Islands Aroha Cooperative on 2025-01-19 at 20:10

@stephen open web (to me) means open standards, not a free-for-all content-wise. like how transparency leads to better security?

interoperability includes making the limits and boundaries explicit, and enforcing them.

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Written by Mr Salteena is not quite a gentleman on 2025-01-19 at 20:12

@airshipper but implies open access to me too: https://social.bau-ha.us/@raganwald/113855757371202674

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Written by 64 Islands Aroha Cooperative on 2025-01-19 at 20:54

@stephen google requiring js interpretation is bonkers, but only ‘closed’ if they are not using some stable API to do so, or obfuscating results by encrypting them or something.

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Written by Deborah Pickett on 2025-01-19 at 21:22

@stephen Some good answers already, but for me the difference is consent. In the open web, consent is freely given by authors and creators. AI and scrapers do not seek consent and even ignore when it is revoked.

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