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Written by /etc/init.d/witch.navi on 2025-01-18 at 20:59

vanguard just... scans your pci-e slots now to try to stop hardware cheats, and bans you if it finds suspicious devices

fucking hell every time i hate those anti-cheats more.

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Written by June on 2025-01-18 at 21:03

@navi I also don't get how all the effort seems to be with fixing cheating on the client side? Like e.g. why does my client even know where all the enemies are? Why can't the server just calculate what the client should be able to see and send that? Sure it would require effort to implement that, but so does all this advanced client-side stuff. And with server-side protections one could actually be sure that they work.

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Written by /etc/init.d/witch.navi on 2025-01-18 at 21:08

@june there is efforts afaik (on some games at least, idk about riot), but minimal ones.

you need to give the client at least some information that the player themselves can't see, because audio simulations and network latency resiliency, so it resolves to doing server side analysis of gameplay to potentially flag someone as a cheater, then do manual review of that

and another way to reduce the perceived cheating is smaller, community servers-- those work great as communities grow and cheaters are naturally kicked out. but that cuts into profits from the game devs so it's a no-no

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Written by Emma (IPG) on 2025-01-18 at 21:17

@navi @june riot also has a pretty good server-side anti-cheat when it comes to valorant, they use it on consoles to try to detect those ML model based cheats that emulate a controller on the console versions (and on PC to detect similar things as well as cheats that slip through the cracks)

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Written by Emma (IPG) on 2025-01-18 at 21:03

@navi what defines a "suspicious device" here and is it at all different to the criteria that disables the device or doesn't let you play (but doesn't ban you)

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Written by /etc/init.d/witch.navi on 2025-01-18 at 21:04

@ipg i don't really know what's the criteria, and considering that a lot of anti-cheats work via obscurity, i honestly doubt many people outside riot games do

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