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Written by notplants on 2025-01-18 at 16:31

again thinking about friendship as a solidarity infastructure

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Written by wakest ⁂ on 2025-01-18 at 16:44

@notplants hi friend

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Written by notplants on 2025-01-18 at 19:48

@liaizon <3

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Written by jowek on 2025-01-19 at 16:57

@notplants I feel you. But i recently also thinking about building social infrastructure that is based on more/other than friendship, and were friendship is a potential in the built social infrastructure - but not a foundation or necessity.

To build foundations that ensure diversity and infrastructure that can ensure representation on different background (gender, class, ethnicity etc.) with a mutual respect and acceptance of difference. And then maybe (hopefully) friendships too.

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Written by jowek on 2025-01-19 at 17:01

@notplants That brings forward differences and accept disagreements, diverse values etc.but wants to "stay in the trouble" with a acceptance of finding compromise and reflect on privileges and bias' etc. That will in some cases be uncomfortable, but everyone has a will to stay in that for a while and navigate through it, in a transformative way.

In friendships you avoid the uncomfortable situations, because you are alike, and share a lot in common. You built your friendship on that 'alikeness'.

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Written by notplants on 2025-01-20 at 00:28

@jowek I also think I see the point your imagining, about a social infrastructure that doesn't depend on friendship, and might give support that is less biased by differences between people. also interested by this question

at worst networks of support through friendship is called cronyism haha

but I also feel like friendship is sort of a magical thing, the "mutual aid network" that transcends any formal definition. another angle would be personally trying to extend friendship across more lines of difference, in addition to building/contributing-to social infrastructure that transcends friendship

thanks for sharing your thought about it, and will keep thinking on it too

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Written by jowek on 2025-01-20 at 11:11

@notplants Sometimes caring and diverse communities are mistakenly recognized as friendship and 'cronyism'. Maybe because a actively caring community is not that common and by a majority only known from non-formalized relations/ friendships.

Maybe what im looking for is comrade and comradery. But in a relational marker - and ofc without parties. So maybe the praxis is comraderi and the wholesomeness of being among allies - not directly friends.

So maybe "comrades are magic" :)

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