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Written by Børge on 2025-01-18 at 10:15

There's a new version of the FOSS forum software #Flarum out, and I was going to toot about how it seems like a great alternative for people who want to start a new community of some sort…

Then I took a look at their website and noticed a lot of LLM illustrations, and I was like no, wtf!

So I searched for Flarum AI, to see if anyone was giving them pushback on this…

And what I found instead was a seemingly official plugin to create fully AI forum users in Flarum!

What the actual fuck!?

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Written by Kobiac on 2025-01-18 at 18:30

@forteller@tutoteket.no@tutoteket.no Such a shame! I guess the plugins are optional, though, but... it communicates a company «stance». I was considering Flarum for a game community. It’s even on YunoHost, which I’m considering for a self-hosting option.

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Written by Børge on 2025-01-18 at 19:14

@Kobiac Yeah. It means that on Flarum forums, even more than on the rest of the internet, you can't be sure if people you talk with are actually people, or just waisting your time and generating probable misinformation at you. I don't understand why they would want to make a system for this to plug in to their forum software, and create this distrust.

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Written by Daniël Klabbers on 2025-01-20 at 19:00

@forteller @Kobiac this extension wasn't authored by core though. And it also never got completed. Another developer actually did create something with chatgpt that works, third party.

As for any extension in flarum, you don't need to use it. This applies to bundled extensions too.

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Written by Daniël Klabbers on 2025-01-20 at 19:46

@forteller @Kobiac I do think this is a wild exaggeration, everyone decides for themselves what their communities do especially with Flarum.

Regardless of this, the ai-toolkit repository has been unpublished. Hope that helps show our intentions to foster a healthy ecosystem promoting human interaction above ai generated content.

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Written by Daniël Klabbers on 2025-01-20 at 18:58

@forteller yeah, that extension never got completed though. As for the images, reason was to first get the content right has it took me about two years to merge 3 codebases into one, by myself. We will look at these images in the coming months and have someone design the whole site in one swoop.

Thanks for the push back.

Ps extensions with flarum are always optional, even the bundled ones

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