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Written by Element on 2025-01-17 at 08:37

🚨Nation-scale Matrix deployments will fail if built on the community version of Synapse.

The community version of Synapse is not designed or intended for use by commercial Matrix hosting providers to serve huge nation-scale deployments. Just as a suspension bridge has a weight limit and will collapse if you exceed it - the same goes for community Synapse.

Deployments supporting millions of users need Synapse Pro.

https://element.io/blog/scaling-to-millions-of-users-requires-synapse-pro/

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Written by Troed Sångberg on 2025-01-17 at 09:28

@element As a tax payer I want my government to use open source. Since Synapse Pro isn't, it's simply not usable for such cases.

Thank you for detailing the need for doing the same development to the open source Synapse as you have already done on Synapse Pro. I hope you do agree, it would be a pity to have to fork.

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Written by Element on 2025-01-17 at 10:27

@troed We'd also like everything to be open source. But the reality is that even with AGPL, we're still stuck in the pattern that enormous deployments use FOSS Synapse without contributing to its dev/maintenance costs.

Every time an opportunity that we're counting on to fund the team turns around and says "oh, FOSS Synapse is good enough, and we can use it for free, bye" we find ourselves needing to provide a very concrete reason not to freeride - hence Synapse Pro.

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Written by teto kasane on 2025-01-17 at 14:54

@element @troed tldr greed

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Written by Element on 2025-01-17 at 15:28

@teto @troed tl;dr is more "need to be able to keep paying people to work on this".

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Written by teto kasane on 2025-01-17 at 15:40

@element @troed donations seem to work for KDE just fine

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Written by Element on 2025-01-17 at 15:58

@teto @troed KDE get 350K EUR/y according to their annual report, which is barely enough to pay for the matrix.org hardware costs, let alone anyone to work on Matrix, unfortunately.

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Written by teto kasane on 2025-01-17 at 16:00

@element @troed you could've done the obvious and sell matrix as a service or sell support for enterprise customers like Canonical. A "pro" version will just make the project look laughable to the open source community. Simple as.

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Toot

Written by Kevin Decherf on 2025-01-17 at 16:06

@teto @troed @element Canonical is actually selling "Pro" edition of Ubuntu

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