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Written by phryk 🏴 on 2025-01-17 at 13:48

I just watched an hour-long talk about elliptic curve crypto and I still have no fucking clue what the hell an elliptic curve actually is. :thonking:

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Written by Tinker ☀️ on 2025-01-17 at 13:54

@phryk - I don't think they do either. It's not a real thing. 😂

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Written by phryk 🏴 on 2025-01-17 at 13:58

@tinker Yeah, honestly this is kind of why I always stayed with RSA.

Every time I try understanding elliptic curve crypto, everything just screams "snakeoil nonsense" at me.

And IMO this is a huge communication problem the crypto scene has.

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Written by phryk 🏴 on 2025-01-17 at 14:00

@tinker

It also doesn't help that math people are ideologically opposed to having descriptive variable names, which makes following the math even more impossible, because you immdeitaly have to juggle 4 extra things in your head (what variable is which keypair component).

With an average brain being able to handle about 7 pieces of info in parallel, this elitist bullshit alone takes up more than half the cognitive capacity of anyone trying to figure this shit out.

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Written by Tinker ☀️ on 2025-01-17 at 14:07

@phryk - Honestly my gut just goes to "it's opaque for a reason. The NSA intentionally fucked with crypto in the past but was caught. Now they do it by hiding it in the miasma of bullshit "modern" crypto standards".

It's bordering on a conspiracy theory, but there's historical precedent so I dont feel too tin foil hat on it.

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Written by phryk 🏴 on 2025-01-17 at 14:11

@tinker I'm not so sure, if that was the case I'm pretty sure many cryptographers would ring some big-ass alarm bells.

But I definitely get where you're coming from.

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Written by التنينوكس on 2025-01-17 at 14:36

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