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Written by mhd on 2025-01-17 at 08:37

Probably wrong venue to ask that, but does anyone know what's the current research on the Greek Linothorax?

Did they use glue or just sew it like every other fabric armor?

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Written by Moonmoth on 2025-01-17 at 08:48

@mhd the glue theory was a translation error. But this is about as much as I know about the topic. https://www.ancientworldmagazine.com/articles/glued-linen-armour/

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Written by mhd on 2025-01-17 at 09:33

@moonmoth The problem is that this starts with citing Aldrete et al., who then proceeded to reconstruct one using glue. 🤷‍♂️

And then there were new theories about "twined" lined, kaolin etc.

Add to the problem that the last few times I looked, the main voice against it was always the same person, regardless whether I looked in RPG or reenactment fora…

I still have it filed as rather unlikely, similar to Viking underpadding, but don't really follow this. Came up in a recent novel I read, so I thought I'd ask/look again ;)

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Written by Moonmoth on 2025-01-17 at 09:55

@mhd When it comes to RPGs, I'd be inclined to believe people who are well known for their meticulous research, like Jeff Richards or Stafford ... who used the glue version in RQG.

Edit: Just a thought: I wonder how practical a non-laminated linothorax would be in wet climates. It must get quite heavy and, well, stinky.

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Written by mhd on 2025-01-17 at 10:29

@moonmoth "Hoplology" has come a long way, so it's often more a matter of recency than research. If all you have is Violet-le-Duc, you get Gygaxian shenanigans ;)

And every armor gets heavy & stinky, laminated or not. It's just that people generally prefer to sweat and smell instead of getting stabbed and cut.

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