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Written by Erin Kissane on 2025-01-16 at 17:33

I hesitate to add to the atmosphere of dread, but Meta's increasingly unfettered acceleration of the kinds of messages that precede genocides is so alarming.

And—how to say this… Avoiding Meta platforms doesn't confer a get-out-of-atrocities-free card. This is why I'm so focused on the need to build broadly appealing, maximally accessible alternative platforms.

I understand, "It's good if the fediverse stays niche," but that's a solution for a tiny number of people.

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Written by Erin Kissane on 2025-01-16 at 17:38

"People should just think more critically about technology" is not a solution. "Normies just love their evil dopamine and dumb celebs, let them suffer" is not a solution.

"I don't believe people when they say it's unpleasant or confusing because it's not for me" is not a solution.

"But Threads!" is not a solution.

The window for making fedi a robust and substantial part of an alternative pluriverse of networks is not going to be open forever, I don't think.

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Written by Erin Kissane on 2025-01-16 at 17:42

I am hopeful about the changes at Mastodon. I think IFTAS is doing absolutely crucial work with very little support. I've come around on bridging, as wildly imperfect as it is, as a stop-loss and a way of keeping fedi more viable for more people who are willing to accept the (nebulous) trade-offs.

But also I love the federated model and I want it to be a real option for more people in more places, so it's discouraging to keep hitting "eh screw the normies" when the societal risks are so high.

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Written by Erin Kissane on 2025-01-16 at 18:59

I wouldn't have posted this knowing I wouldn't be around to look at replies but I have to get offline now for unexpected reasons, so any responses will be slow/in a few days.

The point was, "Niche alternatives will not prevent societal damage wrought by giant corporate platforms knowingly accelerating the worst things humans do to each other, and alt-network advocates better grapple with that right now." The rest is commentary.

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Written by Moritz Strohm on 2025-01-16 at 19:46

@kissane

I think the "works for me" attitude of fossbros/techbros towards users that just want a computer that works out of the box is also the reason why people stick with Windows or Mac OS X instead of switching to GNU/Linux because the latter is still too complicated, especially when something doesn't work out of the box.

It's a good thing when the fediverse services don't make the same mistake with their users.

(GNU/Linux user and free, libre open source software enthusiast here)

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Written by ajf on 2025-01-16 at 22:08

@mstrohm @kissane I think the Linux comparison is doubly fitting. One for the harmful "works for me" attitude that limits popular uptake, but on the other hand it also shows that just because it doesn't have the popular uptake doesn't mean "the window is closing" and it's not worth having. Even as niche system for a small group of people it can stay viable and thrive for many decades, and it might even infaltrate many other places (servers, phones, firmware) without people even noticing. While I would like Mastodon to take over Twitter's inheritance, I think there might still be a long-term future even if it doesn't.

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