Ancestors

Written by comex on 2025-01-14 at 19:35

I wonder if federated networks tend to be more decentralized in practice than fully P2P ones.

After all, if the protocol is fully decentralized but everyone runs the same software made by a centralized team, then in practice the network is under central control.

Federated networks require server admins with technical expertise, time, and their users’ trust. A waste of labor, when P2P networks don’t? But expertise/time/trust is exactly what you need to make a fork successful, if necessary.

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Written by comex on 2025-01-14 at 19:42

This is similar to the theory that Gen Z is less tech savvy than millennials because they grew up with better computers. Computers that were easier to use and more reliable – and thus didn’t force their users to learn tech skills in order to get them to work. Also more locked-down, but that’s not even the main issue.

I don’t know whether this theory is actually supported by evidence, though.

You can also draw connections to earlier generations and their cars…

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Written by qwertyoruiopz on 2025-01-14 at 19:49

@comex I think devices being more locked down/better is a factor - but the most significant one in my mind is the UX on the most likely devices kids are going to encounter these days (ie, tablets/smartphones/consoles) is optimising for turning people into passive consumers rather than active users.

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Written by Siguza on 2025-01-14 at 20:16

@qwertyoruiop @comex I agree with this. My generation (Millennials) already had GUIs that made it easy enough to never delve into technical stuff - and many of my childhood friends and classmates from elementary school or high school never have. But it was possible, for people like me. But if I had never seen a desktop operating system until I hit university, things would have turned out very differently, I'm sure.

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Toot

Written by Mario on 2025-01-15 at 18:30

@siguza @qwertyoruiop @comex On one hand I think it’s great that computers have become accessible to people who don’t want to “get up the ladder” and become enthusiasts. Everyone benefits from that.

on the other hand I hate that the ladder is being kicked down by cryptographically (vendor-owned) locked down systems, just because the market for enthusiasts is becoming a smaller and smaller slice of the pie.

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Descendants

Written by Siguza on 2025-01-15 at 20:49

@hdesk @qwertyoruiop @comex honestly, I don't think mobile devices and consoles are more accessible than desktop OSes. As I said already, many of the people I grew up with were perfectly able to navigate those without having to become power users. But on mobile devices, you don't even have the option to become a power user anymore. You're just a pair of eyeballs to be exploited.

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