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Written by HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml on 2025-01-14 at 17:13

I have a 64-bit gender

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Written by Snot Flickerman on 2025-01-14 at 17:34

Gender is not a boolean value.

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Written by HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml on 2025-01-14 at 17:37

🚫 let gender

👉 let mut gender

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Written by flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz on 2025-01-14 at 20:40

khm, khm

let gender

please don’t use deprecated syntax

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Written by Alfenstein on 2025-01-14 at 22:51

May be gdscript

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Written by qaz on 2025-01-16 at 07:58

But that’s immutable 🦀

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Written by Atlusb@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 17:44

And liable to type conversion errors and precision loss.

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Written by NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 18:06

Jesus, why’d you have to bring floating point and machine precision into the conversation? Now I won’t sleep. And the nightmares will be worse than before.

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Written by SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 17:47

A boolean variable?

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Written by davel@lemmy.ml on 2025-01-14 at 17:48

My gender is e, which can be represented by neither integers nor floating points.

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Written by Rentlar on 2025-01-14 at 17:54

Can it be expressed or represented approximately in IEEE-754 form?

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Written by davel@lemmy.ml on 2025-01-14 at 17:56

Only approximated, never truly represented 😞

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Written by LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 20:38

Unless your encoding has a special value that, by definition is euler’s constant :p

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Written by davel@lemmy.ml on 2025-01-14 at 20:49

Good point. Specifically code point U+2107 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ℇ

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Written by idunnololz on 2025-01-15 at 10:14

Ah so ur gender can be represented in UTF 8.

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Written by ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world on 2025-01-16 at 06:31

No taxation without approximation!

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Written by Valmond@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 19:14

Everything can be represented approximatively.

e = π = 3

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Written by Thorry84@feddit.nl on 2025-01-14 at 17:55

Obviously, there is True, False and FILE_NOT_FOUND

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Written by shininghero@pawb.social on 2025-01-14 at 18:45

Better than having your gender datatype being a Bobool3ol and evaluating to “Tru(🍒🎂🍒)lse”.

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Written by leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl on 2025-01-14 at 18:14

mmm… a long long

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Written by bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 2025-01-14 at 18:51

long long man : www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-1Ue0FFrHY

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Written by Aila@leminal.space on 2025-01-14 at 18:19

Please join my gaming server shorturl.at/Tki09

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Written by tias@discuss.tchncs.de on 2025-01-14 at 18:34

I’ve been thinking about this now and again. IMO gender, if one insists on tracking it at all (which I mostly find counterproductive), would need to be a vector / tuple of floating-point values. The components would be something like:

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Written by thisfro@slrpnk.net on 2025-01-14 at 18:43

Also genes is only half of it. Expression of genes is another, complicated story.

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Written by shininghero@pawb.social on 2025-01-14 at 18:50

Gender Identity, now with linear algebra. Those 3b1b videos are going to be super useful, but not in the way the author intended.

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Written by Bumblefumble@lemm.ee on 2025-01-14 at 22:12

A good way would be to create as many variables as possible that map anything relevant, genes, upbringing, sexual and gender expression, etc., and then doing a PCA to reduce the defining vector to as few elements as possible.

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Written by tias@discuss.tchncs.de on 2025-01-14 at 22:54

I like how you think but I’m not sure if that alone will hold water. A variable can vary wildly even though it’s not very relevant to the property you’re interested in, and PCA would consider such a variable to be very significant. Perhaps a neural network could find a latent space. But ideally we want the components to have some intuitive meaning for humans.

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Written by ryannathans@aussie.zone on 2025-01-14 at 22:41

These are all measurable except 4

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Written by flora_explora@beehaw.org on 2025-01-15 at 14:35

In how far does gender change in your hypothetical metric with transition. If I take hormones for example, I would influence this metric.

Another confusing point would be how you try tracking gender, but having a gender identity value inside the metric. How would you even track this gender then?

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Written by tias@discuss.tchncs.de on 2025-01-16 at 09:01

All of these are measurable. I’m not sure what’s the source of your confusion. Yes the terminology becomes a bit ambiguous unless we make up a new word/term but gender identity is just one dimension of the tuple. It can be measured with a standardized questionnaire.

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Written by thisfro@slrpnk.net on 2025-01-14 at 18:45

Choose one class of gender:

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Written by affiliate@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 19:15

this is p-adic gender erasure

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Written by Anna on 2025-01-14 at 21:59

It is definitely complex numbers in polar form

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Written by AeonFelis@lemmy.world on 2025-01-15 at 11:43

That’s a very quaternionphobic list.

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Written by zqwzzle@lemmy.ca on 2025-01-17 at 11:54

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Written by trot [he/him] on 2025-01-14 at 18:58

any “n-bit value” fails to model nontermination. clearly a pointed dCPO.

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Written by Valmond@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 19:16

As it is not stable I’d go with a database.

Sqlite.

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Written by Akatsuki Levi on 2025-01-15 at 03:29

Better go with MySQL to ensure foreign keys comstrains

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Written by Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de on 2025-01-15 at 13:26

not sure i want strains of com in my gender

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Written by CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2025-01-14 at 20:00

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don’t.

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Written by bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 2025-01-14 at 20:24

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get ternary; those who don’t; those who thought this was going to be a binary joke

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Written by stebo on 2025-01-15 at 00:27

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who get quaternary; those who don’t; those who thought this was going to be a ternary joke; those who can see where this is going…

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Written by flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works on 2025-01-15 at 03:08

I might be a slow learner but I’m catching on…

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Written by stebo on 2025-01-15 at 11:07

ah I see, you are the 10th kind!

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Written by JackbyDev on 2025-01-15 at 12:32

Regardless of what base you’re using, 10 is always the nth number. In base 10 (normal numbers), 10 is 10th. In base 2 it is the 2nd.

In base 16 (hexadecimal) it is the 16th.

The original joke is “there are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don’t l” because 10 in binary is 2 in base 10. But they’re pointing out that a similar joke works for all bases of numbers.

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Written by flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works on 2025-01-16 at 05:13

I love that you felt like this needed explaining - thanks!

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Written by theherk@lemmy.world on 2025-01-16 at 06:52

Some of us would argue 10 is the n+1 th number because zero comes first. Otherwise you’re just throwing a new digit into the mix when you get to 10.

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Written by JackbyDev on 2025-01-16 at 15:06

Zero comes zeroth.

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Written by FooBarrington@lemmy.world on 2025-01-14 at 21:44

And what are the other e?

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Written by schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 2025-01-14 at 22:06

every base is base 10

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Written by luciferofastora@lemmy.zip on 2025-01-16 at 06:30

There are n types of people in this world: Those who don’t understand numeral systems, those who understand base x systems for x ∈ [2, n] and those who get pedantic about this meta-joke.

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Written by enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 2025-01-14 at 21:33

We may have discovered gender entropy, Shannon would be proud

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Written by Anna on 2025-01-14 at 22:00

Maybe it can be represented by 1qbit

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Written by stebo on 2025-01-15 at 00:21

literally discussed with my friends the other day that gender is like a vector in Hilbert space

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Written by JackbyDev on 2025-01-15 at 12:27

I don’t think so, because with wbits the intermediate values can be non binary but the end result must be binary when read.

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Written by MeatPilot on 2025-01-14 at 22:51

0100100100100111011011010010000001100001001000000111001001101111011000100110111101110100001000000110000101110100011101000111001001100001011000110111010001100101011001000010000001110100011011110010000001101101011000010110011101101110011001010111010001110011

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Written by LifeLemons@lemmy.ml on 2025-01-15 at 04:22

There are 2⁶⁴ genders

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Written by LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 2025-01-15 at 04:17

So many other things are also non-binary, but people insist that not being 100% on their side means you’re a million percent on the extreme opposite hateful wrong side.

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Written by madcaesar@lemmy.world on 2025-01-15 at 11:42

Absolutely. My baseline is that I want everyone to be treated equally and with respect. I want everyone have the same protections from the government and everyone to be allowed to be and to love whoever they want.

Past that, it gets into minutia I just can’t get on board with and it’s hurting the left as a whole because people are trying to force language and thought policing on people, which I don’t like, it’s authoritarian, and I think it’s a losing strategy.

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Written by LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 2025-01-16 at 00:30

It’s been said that indecisiveness and perfectionism are liberal weaknesses, and decisiveness and being willing to ignore imperfections for the sake of the team are conservative strengths. I think Michael Moore put it best… Liberals say, “What should we do about dinner? I don’t know… do you want to go out? I dunno, do you? Well, if you do. Okay, where should we go? I dunno, where do you wanna go?” A conservative slams his hand on the table and says, “Get in the car, we’re goin’ to the Sizzler!”

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Written by rabber@lemmy.ca on 2025-01-15 at 15:36

A lot of the userbase here thinks this way and it’s very tiresome

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