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Written by Ulrike Hahn on 2025-01-02 at 16:00

I've been thinking a lot about social norms for online discourse....

I've also started writing up some thoughts. I'm trying multiple shorter blog posts that will (hopefully....) combine into something substantive.

Here's the first, a gentle warm up....

All thoughts welcome!

https://write.as/ulrikehahn/online-social-media-toxicity-and-scale

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Written by rakoo on 2025-01-03 at 08:50

@UlrikeHahn

There's this book, Log Off by Katherine Cross (https://www.littlepuss.net/shop/p/pre-order-log-off-why-posting-and-politics-almost-never-mix-by-katherine-cross) that goes down in this thing and shows that the model itself (everyone talks to everyone) creates issues.

I've been thinking that maybe limiting replies with some kind of exponential backoff (the more people replied, the longer you have to wait for a new one) might reduce the effect of enduring conversation and incite people to post new content. Another possibility is anonymous posts: instead of talking about people and posting for clout, it's all about the content. This however means less familiarity and "humanity".

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Written by Ulrike Hahn on 2025-01-09 at 18:37

@rakoo Rakoo, just coming back to report that I’ve now read Cross’s book. Thanks again for pointing it out, it was well worth my time! For one, it’s analysis of Bluesky I found helpful in identifying reasons for why Mastodon was not going to be the next Twitter.

More importantly, the way she talks about affordances is exactly what I have in mind. What differs is the target: she makes a great case that social media cannot be tools for meaningful action. My interest is in whether they can be tools for meaningful discourse.

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Written by rakoo on 2025-01-09 at 21:29

@UlrikeHahn

Wow you're so fast, it's nice you liked it ! I was interested in it specifically for the organizing part and what do we do with these tools, but I understand your point of view and analyzing the discourse part is also important !

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