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Written by memory_mismanager [CWE-401] on 2025-01-06 at 18:43

secure scuttlebutt's offline features were fucking great. sure, it took up a lot of space on your harddrive (okay a couple of gigs probably isn't that much for an entire social media of nodes you've connected to) and running it made my fans spin, but i loved being able to browse shit offline and reply to things offline, and then, when i connected to the internet, all of it would then send, and appear as if i had replied at the time i replied offline. that shit was great

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Written by technomancy (turbonerd aspect) on 2025-01-06 at 18:45

@m455 I really wish they hadn't made those protocol goofs that made it impossible to interop with 3rd-party clients; it would have been pretty amazing if there had been a whole ecosystem around it instead of just one electron app

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Written by memory_mismanager [CWE-401] on 2025-01-06 at 18:49

@technomancy gosh yeah, that was eventually the thing that had always been in the back of my mind, the early days of young programmer me (i am still young programmer me i guess lol but with more security knowledge now) accepting those warnings and running all those npm -i commands as root because the warnings told me to do so, and that a sandbox thingy would help which... also required running as root :(

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Written by memory_mismanager [CWE-401] on 2025-01-06 at 18:50

@technomancy it's one reason i'll not install electron apps manually anymore. i'll use things like signal and set up the apt stuff on debian for it from the official web page's instructions, but other than that i do not ever install electron apps by hand anymore (but i also don't like how much battery is drained from electron apps as i'm mostly working from an unplugged laptop, as my only device)

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Written by technomancy (turbonerd aspect) on 2025-01-06 at 18:52

@m455 I held off on signal for so long but tragically the unofficial 3rd-party clients don't actually work =( it's the one electron app I will allow on my system

now that you mention it the parallels between signal and ssb are fairly strong, except ssb failed at interoperability due to a mistake, and signal fails at it on purpose which is even worse

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Written by memory_mismanager [CWE-401] on 2025-01-06 at 19:03

@technomancy yeah :( i remember looking into seeing if a signal weechat plugin existed but it seems like you have to do some extra work that i'm not willing to do. really sucks.

signal is that one app that keeps people away from being like "why don't you just use whatsapp?" at least, because i am just so done with anything facebook-owned since like 2016 or 17

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Written by memory_mismanager [CWE-401] on 2025-01-06 at 19:05

@technomancy the response to me staying 3 planets away from facebook products is "why don't you just make a burner account?" because people don't realize that facebook doesn't care if your data is legitimate, they only care about user behaviour profiles, which i assume are just clumps of json containing a list of shit saying how long you looked at something, messages/images sent, etc. so it's essential the using of facebook that makes them money, and i dont want to support that

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Written by technomancy (turbonerd aspect) on 2025-01-06 at 19:12

@m455 it is interesting to theorize whether it would be possible to feed facebook data that was so shitty that it would be a net negative

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