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Written by Scott Jenson on 2024-12-20 at 00:39

Honestly, if I felt like starting a company (and I REALLY don't) it's the perfect time to create a local device that acts as my both my online cloud and assistant. Maybe it's a companion device to Apple/Google Home/Home Assistant. It seems so blindingly obvious I can't believe there aren't 10 companies doing it now.

It will start off a bit geeky andlikely won't be a consumer device initially. Too many barriers to make it interoperate easily.

But things are so moving in that direction.

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Written by whil on 2024-12-20 at 18:28

@scottjenson seems like a good candidate for the #Jetson Orin Nano! I think you’re right about local, private LLM infrastructure being an untapped market. Somebody’s just gotta make it more accessible for the layman

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Written by Scott Jenson on 2024-12-20 at 19:59

@whil Someone needs to make the "mac of online servers". There are promising open source solutions like @nextcloud but they are hindered by the lack of consumer friendly UX(which is hard! I'm not faulting them). Of course, the actual assistant is also a big ask. But I expect that is going to improve rapidly.

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Written by Viktor Nagornyy on 2024-12-20 at 22:38

@scottjenson @whil @nextcloud If you have suggestions Scott, our design team is always looking for feedback and contributions:

https://nextcloud.com/design/ 😀

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Written by Scott Jenson on 2024-12-22 at 15:15

@viktor @whil @nextcloud I just installed it on pikapod. Overall, it was up and running fairly easily! However, I was stumped at something trivial: the logon screen.

I was completely stumped when I saw this, wondering what my account name and password were, going to your documentation, faq, etc. Only to sheepishly realize this was the CREATE screen! While I was 'wrong', this is an easy fix with a stronger header text and putting some default 'hint text' in each field.

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Written by Scott Jenson on 2024-12-22 at 15:17

@viktor @whil @nextcloud This screenshot is AFTER I figured it out. Before it was all blank, I didn't even SEE the header text. This should be a nearly painless fix as it's just changing/adding some text to the screen.

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Written by Viktor Nagornyy on 2024-12-22 at 15:19

@scottjenson @whil @nextcloud great feedback. Let me tag @jancborchardt 😀

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Written by Scott Jenson on 2024-12-22 at 15:33

@viktor @whil @nextcloud @jancborchardt From the PikaPod setup, the first NextCloud screen was the 'which apps do you want' which seemed a bit odd. This was the second and totally stopped me in my tracks. ("how did I miss the account name?")

There are many possible solutions here. For example, changing the labels to be "New admin account name" and "New admin password" might do it. With a "Create account" button, etc. Just don't make it look EXACTLY like a log on screen!

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Written by Jan C. Borchardt 🦆 on 2024-12-23 at 14:53

@scottjenson @viktor @whil @nextcloud agree that in trying to make installation look very simple and approachable, it ended up looking too much like a login screen. Wording fix submitted with https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/49962, thanks a lot for the feedback! :)

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Written by Scott Jenson on 2024-12-23 at 15:07

@jancborchardt @viktor Wow, that was quick, Thank you! What interests me is something I'm sure interests you: how to make this truly dead simple for anyone (Although I expect your target user is a bit more sophisticated)

I'm generally happy with the PikaPods approach as it appears inexpensive (<$5/month) and was fairly easy to set up (the subdomain wasn't bad but likely hard for novices)

A local hw device is the long term goal but clearly more of a stretch to pull off

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Written by Jan C. Borchardt 🦆 on 2024-12-30 at 15:06

@scottjenson @viktor local hardware devices do exist :) https://nextcloud.com/devices/

We even created the "Nextcloud Box" back in 2016 in collaboration with Western Digital Labs and Canonical – a local hw piece will always be a bit nerdy though, and my personal worry has always been how to properly do backups in that scenario. Lots of hosters (like with Wordpress, Drupal, etc) and partnerships with bigger hosting companies is a nice middle ground to make it accessible to many people while being useful

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Written by Jan C. Borchardt 🦆 on 2024-12-30 at 15:09

@scottjenson @viktor and an even easier approach we pushed is "Simple Signup": https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/

Here we simply pick providers which fulfill some requirements, and can then integrate this as a "Sign up" link in our apps even though we do not do any centralized hosting.

I wrote an article with details about this at https://opensource.com/article/20/9/decentralization-signup

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