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Written by foremanguy on 2024-12-12 at 18:46

My thoughts on docker

https://lemmy.ml/post/23510440

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Written by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat on 2024-12-12 at 19:14

It’s hard for me to tell if I’m just set in my ways according to the way I used to do it, but I feel exactly the same.

I think Docker started as “we’re doing things at massive scale, and we need to have a way to spin up new installations automatically and reliably.” That was good.

It’s now become “if I automate the installation of my software, it doesn’t matter that the whole thing is a teetering mess of dependencies and scripted hacks, because it’ll all be hidden inside the container, and also people with no real understanding can just push the button and deploy it.”

I forced myself to learn how to use Docker for installing a few things, found it incredibly hard to do anything of consequence to the software inside the container, and for my use case it added extra complexity for no reason, and I mostly abandoned it.

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Written by Croquette@sh.itjust.works on 2024-12-13 at 02:39

I hate how docker made it so that a lot of projects only have docker as the official way to install the software.

This is my tinfoil opinion, but to me, docker seems to enable the “phone-ification” ( for a lack of better term) of softwares. The upside is that it is more accessible to spin services on a home server. The downside is that we are losing the knowledge of how the different parts of the software work together.

I really like the Turnkey Linux projects. It’s like the best of both worlds. You deploy a container and a script setups the container for you, but after that, you have the full control over the software like when you install the binaries

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Written by Strit on 2024-12-13 at 07:04

I hate how docker made it so that a lot of projects only have docker as the official way to install the software.

Just so we are clear on this. This is not dockers fault. The projects chose Docker as a distribution method, most likely because it’s as widespread and known as it is. It’s simply just to reach more users without spreading too thin.

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Written by Croquette@sh.itjust.works on 2024-12-13 at 13:09

You are right and I should have been more precise.

I understand why docker was created and became popular because it abstracts a lot of the setup and make deployment a lot easier.

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Written by jj4211@lemmy.world on 2024-12-14 at 17:16

Yeah, but it is hard to separate that, and it’s easy to get a bit resentful particularly when a projects quality declines in large part because they got lazy by duct taping in container registries instead of more carefully managing their project.

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