Ancestors

Written by Vee on 2024-12-10 at 21:53

For people outside the US, this is a classic example and by no means a rarity.

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Written by Arne Babenhauserheide on 2024-12-10 at 22:10

@VeroniqueB99 I don’t understand how the US insurance system can fail at such a classic case while the same case in Germany just works.

In Germany, after the cancer is defeated, you can continue building your life almost from the same financial position you had before cancer.

That is what happened in my family, and the insurance and the pension system even paid for rehab.

No life savings lost, because protection against such high damage, low probability risks is just what insurance is for.

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Written by StreetDogg on 2024-12-10 at 23:36

@ArneBab @VeroniqueB99 It didn't fail. It's just designed to generate profit and some people made some nice money by looting this family that didn't have much of a choice. It works as designed. Sick people are easy targets and milked dry efficiently.

Why so many american voters think this is good actually, or not possible to be designed for the benefit of the people instead, is beyond me, though. That's some next level brainwashing as it is only possible in the US of A, I think. For now anyway.

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Written by kikebenlloch on 2024-12-11 at 00:28

@StreetDogg @ArneBab @VeroniqueB99 I actually think it can happen anywhere. There are well funded political forces in so many countries (in Western Europe or Latin America for instance) favouring extreme wealth concentration and limitation of labour, health & civil rights while wearing a populist mask on... and millions of citizens are buying into that. These movements have great possibilities of getting away with it all if allowed to gain momentum. Some are already in power.

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Descendants

Written by AccordionBruce on 2024-12-11 at 02:31

@kikebenlloch @StreetDogg @ArneBab @VeroniqueB99

It’s absolutely happening in Canada right now

If you want to watch the US’s cancerous for-profit healthcare model spread, watch the coming elections in Canada

The Canadian healthcare system would would be up for grabs if it was declared for-profit and that’s absolutely on the table with American insurance companies salivating at the chance to invade

People have no idea what they’d be voting for, but it’ll be sold like #BrexitNorth

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Written by StreetDogg on 2024-12-11 at 12:46

@kikebenlloch @ArneBab @VeroniqueB99 It can happen everywhere over time, but there's something unique about the US.

I think during the Cold War they talked themselves into being so anti-communism and pro-capitalism, that they have a long-lasting mental blockade about state services that actually work. The mindset was "it's either capitalistic or it's the enemy" for generations and instead of getting rid of that self-harming sillyness, they are spreading it to other countries.

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Written by Vee on 2024-12-11 at 21:03

@StreetDogg

THAT is the best thing I've read in a while. It's exactly that. McCarthyism and all....

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Written by kikebenlloch on 2024-12-13 at 10:35

@StreetDogg @ArneBab @VeroniqueB99 That may've well been the case for decades but since the dawn of the 21st century I see an increasing amount of radical anticapitalist views from US citizens. I cannot foresee the outcome but they seem to me so absolutely let down by late stage capitalism (how to earn a minimum living wage, where to live/shelter that one can afford, how to deal with health issues since all sickness has been turned into a business model...) that they're absolutely mad at it all.

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Written by Arne Babenhauserheide on 2024-12-13 at 11:49

@kikebenlloch I see a mix of Anarchocapitalist ("let’s make society even more capitalist, then it will be better for sure! Why not allow people to haggle about a pricetag for murder?") and radical anticapitalist ("nothing can be solved without first destroying capitalism!").

I don’t think that either of those actually helps.

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