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Written by k on 2024-12-10 at 21:40

Tankies’ negative response to the fall of the Assad regime needs to be condemned, and loudly.

PSL and other authoritarian groups would apparently prefer to see Syrian people and Palestinian refugees in the country remain in underground prison chambers or murdered by the tens of thousands than see a Russia-backed dictator slandered.

This is literally what I’m seeing and hearing. Today, even the Means Morning News dude (who usually keeps his authoritarian views pretty low-key) implied that it was some USA-led operation.

If you, as a white person, have such little faith in the Syrian people to fight for their own freedom and sovereignty I suggest you examine your biases about Arab people and sit this conversation out.

Y’all are fucking unreal.

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Written by Captain Jack Sparrow on 2024-12-10 at 21:45

@xeroxerox

Also sickening to see the terrorist state of israel starting a land grab and bombing campaign in Syria at the first opportunity.

This really needs to bite israel back in the arse.

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Written by benda on 2024-12-10 at 21:55

@Captain_Jack_Sparrow do you think that there was any possibility the government of Syria would collapse and Israel wouldn't invade and attack?

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Written by Captain Jack Sparrow on 2024-12-10 at 21:59

@benda

TBH I didn't see any of this coming, but it would be a terrible shame if the #IDF death squad overstretched themselves and the neighbouring countries united in revolt against the israeli terrorist state

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Written by benda on 2024-12-10 at 22:04

@Captain_Jack_Sparrow then i won't attack you about it. but the fact of the matter, is this is why genuine leftists don't necessarily want to see these dictatorships fall. We're not fucking tankies, but we know the situation better than westerners who started following this story last week. Assad is a piece of shit. But there's no reality where Assad goes, and Israel/U.S. doesn't come in. As you now see.

And regarding your edit, the countries will not unite against Israel beyond the islamic resistance. because they are economically separated from the imperialists. the saudis, jordanians, egyptians etc can talk all they want, but we know where their paychecks come from.

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Written by Captain Jack Sparrow on 2024-12-10 at 22:13

@benda

I don't have any realistic expectation that those countries will untie against israel, but there is a chance of israel biting off more than it can chew.

Unfortunately the "solution" from the USA would then be to send more bombs, missiles and fighter planes to israel to help them cause even more destruction.

[#]IsraelTerroristState #GenocideJoe

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Written by benda on 2024-12-10 at 22:15

@Captain_Jack_Sparrow always. military colonies require constant arms.

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Written by HeavenlyPossum on 2024-12-11 at 15:17

@Captain_Jack_Sparrow @benda

Perhaps we should put that toddler back in his cage at Sednaya so that Israel doesn’t engage in aggression against Syrians.

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Written by Captain Jack Sparrow on 2024-12-13 at 00:06

@HeavenlyPossum @benda

perhaps israel should be brought to heel

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Written by Farhad ☮️🆓🇵🇸 on 2024-12-10 at 21:56

@xeroxerox here comes another a-hole with selective moral outrage and attacking those who dare telling the truth that one evil doesn't justify another one

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Written by benda on 2024-12-10 at 22:01

@faab64 you and i were in literal agreement about this approximately 6 hours ago lol.

as i said then, Assad is a human piece of shit. But there's imaginary revolutionary thinking that goes, "We can overthrow a dictator, and the imperialist next door won't destroy our country and steal our land." and then there's reality based political analysis. There is NO reality in the current climate where Assad goes and Israel/USA do not invade. As evidence, the actual reality on the ground right now.

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Written by benda on 2024-12-10 at 22:05

@faab64 sorry, i thought you were replying to my reply lol

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Written by Farhad ☮️🆓🇵🇸 on 2024-12-10 at 22:36

@benda no worries

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Written by Lien Rag on 2024-12-12 at 11:51

@xeroxerox

Condemning tankies shouldn't lead to being as simplistic as they are...

The Syrian people have fought for their freedom and sovereignty for one hundred year now, and against the Assad regime for more than 50 years, and they were constantly and mercilessly crushed.

A sudden victory in two weeks can logically be inferred as coming from an external factor, even if some parts of Syrian auto-organization did indeed prepare the way for the victory.

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Written by Lien Rag on 2024-12-12 at 11:51

@xeroxerox

Apparently one important factor was the ability of HTS to manufacture their own drones¹ to take out Assad's tanks - and that's something that has huge implications for the future - but that can't explain the whole regime crumble.

HTS isn't a Turkish proxy, but SNA is, and both played a role in the military victory.

¹ Seems they had help from Ukraine, but Ukraine is known to exagerate its role in anti-russian activities in external fronts

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