Cracked 60.000 #networklocation recordings with #neostumbler, uploaded to @beacondb !
Over 120.000 wifis, 2.700 cell towers and 3.300 bluetooth beacons!
Tricks:
[#]beacondb #unifiednlp #geoclue #grapheneos #microg #navigation #cyberresilience #openstreetmap #opensource #privacy
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Sadly I cannot show you my #map without #doxxing myself, but it is pretty blue!
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@beacondb
Aaaaand, I made 70.000 submissions!
3.000 cell towers, 3.600 bluetooth beacons, nearly 150.000 wifis!
[#]NetworkLocation #LibreGeoLocation #NeoStumbler #BeaconDB
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@beacondb
[#]NetworkLocation is so crucial. In #Germany I was in regional trains in #Niedersachsen and #Bayern, both times there is 0% #GPS inside the train. If you dont physically hold your phone outside a window, you have no idea where you are.
Networklocation solves this easily. I had cell internet all the time. You may even pass by houses and get #geolocation through their #Wifi APs.
Use #NeoStumbler in trains and subways, especially if you have #PlayServices installed!
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@beacondb
I was in 2 #ICE's today (german highspeed trains), and one had #GPS signal, the other one didn't.
Must be these weird lead windows or whatever. Meanwhile, cell data again worked?
So I could only collect one way, not the way back. Luckily my tricks ramped up the scan rate a lot.
[#]BeaconDB #NetworkLocation #OSM
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@Rhababerbarbar Another trick: disable WiFi scan throttling in Android developer settings.
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@beacondb @Rhababerbarbar and also in neostumbler, it is called ignore wifi scan throttling (it gave me better results that way). also ia the F-droid version not able to use the fused location provider if you wanna improove the accuracy indoors aswell after you did outside.
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@Idcrafter @beacondb
Jup that is what I meant by "follow neostumblers settings"
The fused location provider is nice, indirectly scraping data off Google. But only works if you use location services by Google.
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@Rhababerbarbar @beacondb yeah i use beacondb wich will help indpprs after i was often around that location
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@Idcrafter @beacondb
Yes I think so too.
Maybe I should do the same to get data inside subways/undergrounds, which is otherwise impossible.
I would maybe wait until #GrapheneOS has released their location service which uses Apples DB but offline.
But I wonder if #Neostumbler will work with that, as I dont know how GrapheneOS will implement the NLP.
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@Rhababerbarbar @Idcrafter @beacondb The GrapheneOS NLP will combine data from multiple sources (including beaconDB), but support for direct submissions is currently not planned.
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@Andromxda @Rhababerbarbar @beacondb isn't GrapheneOS nit just uaing googles NLP? they use googles play services that come with it and using another NLP services would only be a downgrade in accuracy and maybe even use more battery? GrapheneOS can't change the play services to remove unwanted or duplicated features because only google owns the code.
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@Idcrafter @Rhababerbarbar @beacondb
GrapheneOS btw also improves the privacy for SUPL and PSDS, by using their proxy servers instead of the, and removing the SoC serial number from the requests. (https://grapheneos.org/faq#:~:text=HTTPS%20connections%20are,the%20database%20variant.)
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@Andromxda @Rhababerbarbar @beacondb that seems to be wrongly understood probably due to how i wrote ny comment. i am sorry for any missunderstanding but i won't try to "save" it.
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@Rhababerbarbar @beacondb hi, please, do you know license of database ? I can't find it or i need an other coffee π€£
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@vinber @beacondb
CC0
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@Rhababerbarbar @vinber The database is currently not public yet as we're still working on privacy issues. But once it's safe to do so, yes it will be CC0 as above.
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@Rhababerbarbar @beacondb is the point of this so that OSM can provide high accuracy geolocation just like Google, etc? I thought people generally didn't like their Wi-Fi networks being mapped. Or is there a way to do it while respecting privacy?
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@semitones @Rhababerbarbar Yep, that's the goal. I started up this project because Mozilla has now shutdown their Location Services, leaving the open source community with no alternatives. Some projects have been using proprietary databases like Google and Apple Location Services.
You're correct that some people don't like their WiFi networks being mapped. They can opt out from most location services (Apple, Google, BeaconDB, etc) by adding _nomap to the end of their SSID.
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@semitones @Rhababerbarbar There are a few ideas the community is working on to tackle these privacy issues, such as publishing data in a way that you can't easily identify a single AP globally: https://codeberg.org/beacondb/beacondb/issues/68
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@Rhababerbarbar @beacondb I think the issue is the speed at which you're going the GPS never manages to lock properly. Last time I took a TGV I couldn't get a lock while moving, but I got it while resting, it stayed locked. Same thing on a plane, even if up there it should be easier to spot the satellites (although maybe the heuristics for finding them fails at 10km ASL).
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@mdione @beacondb
Might well be!
I was in an ICE and at the beginning and end I had a GPS lock. But not in the middle
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