Ancestors

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Written by webshinra on 2024-11-29 at 15:12

For a #rustlang course in engineering school, I made a simplified Rust ancestor tree. It turn out it's interesting.

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Descendants

Written by webshinra on 2025-02-02 at 14:40

Version 2.0 (still partial, but with datation)

edit: adding missing arrow

[#]rust

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Written by Corax on 2024-11-29 at 15:38

@webshinra Two languages that I feel deserve to be on there are Cyclone (between C and Rust, next to C++) and Dylan (between Scheme and Rust).

Rust's pre-NLL borrow checker was directly based on Cyclone's region-based memory management.

And while I haven't seen this stated officially anywhere, Rust's declarative macro system seems very much to have evolved from Scheme by way of Dylan (which also had plans for a proc macro system simiular to what we got in Rust).

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Written by webshinra on 2024-11-29 at 16:25

@Corax42 Why not, rust is not perfect. But from a professional and buisness standpoint, the community, ecosystem and human resource, are important. I'm pretty happy that rust allready have potential successors

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Written by webshinra on 2024-11-29 at 16:30

@Corax42 (i'll have a look at it, thanks for the tops)

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Written by Corax on 2024-11-29 at 16:46

@webshinra Was that supposed to be a reply to my post, or to somebody else's? It does not seem to be connected to anything I wrote. Or maybe I'm just not understanding.

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Written by Corax on 2024-11-29 at 16:56

@webshinra Oh, I see now. You mean to say that Cyclone and Dylan didn't meet the threshold for inclusion because they were lacking in community, ecosystem and human resources, compared to the other languages.

That is certainly a fair point. Sorry, I'm a bit slow today.

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Written by webshinra on 2024-11-29 at 17:07

@Corax42 i was pretty unclear, sorry

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Written by d2718 on 2024-11-29 at 16:26

@webshinra What C# features does Rust have that couldn't be thought of as coming directly from C++ or Java? (Not challenging you; just curious.)

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Written by webshinra on 2024-11-29 at 20:59

@d2718 I'm not a java specialist, and it's makes it hard to answer with assurance, but from what I understand; over time, Java incorporated cool feature from it's derivative (like C#).

I think Async/Await is one of them; pattern matching could be considered one too (but hey, ML got there before).

C# introduce controls about memory management (Span) which seems to me more rust-ish than what would be done in Java.

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Written by Tom on 2025-02-02 at 14:48

@webshinra The "C" is not going to Rust anymore?

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Written by webshinra on 2025-02-02 at 15:15

@tdelmas nice catch, thanks

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Written by bip on 2025-02-02 at 15:00

@webshinra

Lovely chart but Rust is overrated

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Written by webshinra on 2025-02-02 at 15:21

@bipartisan thanks ! (but I don't see any rating in that chart)

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