Ancestors

Toot

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:23

This Friday I was part of this spectacular release. Which I completely missed because I was convinced I was on disc C! Argh.

I've been told that there was some interest regarding the production of my track at the listening party. On the technical side. Which I love to babble about.

Generally I toot this kind of stuff under the tag #DubUnderConstruction

https://bonkknobrecords.bandcamp.com/album/not-what-i-call-bonk-wave-volume-003-disk-b-bonked-and-unbonked

So let me explain a couple of basic stuff in this thread

[#]BonkWave #dub #MusicProduction

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Descendants

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:29

First of all. Everything is recorded and mixed on my analog desk.

In the track in question the kick drum and the "bonk"-backbeat is programmed but everything else is hand played 64 bar loops.

I do this to get a live feeling and to make the groove interesting and organic to listen to even if it mostly consists of ostinatos.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:33

Secondly the mix is totally improvised on my analog desk. It's run from a computer but everything is just running all ostinatos together. I have 16 channels out of my sound card so the different elements goes to different channels on the desk. So All form and structure and things coming in and out is just me moving my faders and knobs. Free style improvised live dub mixing. The track is simply the main output from my desk.

Simple. One puff, press record, go!

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:40

Then there was some interest in my delays.

So. First. All effects are outboard gear fed from and mixed into my desk.

The delays in particular is done in a classic dub style setup. Repeats/feedback (whatever it's called) on the delay machine itself is turned all down so. Then the delay is feed from and aux and output goes to a channel on the desk. I control repeats on the channel simply by sending output from the delay back to itself. Small adjustments on eq will colour the sound to taste

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:52

In my current setup I have 3 delays.

As a primary classic dub tempo delay as used on the skanks I have a Yamaha E1005. It has a wonderfull warm sound but needs some eq tweaking to be really usefull for my purpose. As all analog bucket delays it goes very dark so I compensate for that on the desk.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:57

For longer delays I use the simplets and cleanest digital delay I could find. A TC Electronic flashback (version one). I then feed it through a compressor in the loop to give it some character. Depending on how you set the compressor you can get some quite interesting effects out of it. On the track in question I didn't press it too hard in the compressor so it still sounds relatively clean.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 21:02

Hmm and the third delay. I don't think I used that at all on that track. Ha ha. Technically it's also the least interesting. It's a strymon brigadier. A fine sounding machine. But it won't work feeding it through the desk. Not all delays will work for that. It's will pick up some ugly digital noise in the loop. Same thing with another strymon delay i've tried, El Capistan. A good sounding delay with a sound that fits good into dub fx. But It wont work if you feed it through the desk

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by sknob ⏚ on 2024-11-10 at 20:48

@doktorlond really enjoyed your track. Killer bass line and percussion.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from sknob

Written by AxWax on 2024-11-10 at 20:57

@doktorlond Sweet, I've got an E1010 here myself!

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from axwax@chaos.social

Written by AxWax on 2024-11-10 at 20:40

@doktorlond Being a renegade dub delay connoisseur I'd love to find out more about the effects you used.

Lovely track, btw!

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from axwax@chaos.social

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:42

@axwax thanks - yeah look and my next reply for a start :-)

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-10 at 20:48

@axwax Or maybe you did reply to that post actually. Mastodons threading model is confusing some times :-D

I'll explain further ...

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by AxWax on 2024-11-10 at 20:55

@doktorlond No, I did reply to the previous post, but I'm definitely up fore more details/specifics! 😀

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from axwax@chaos.social

Written by dAVE Inden || attks th drknss on 2024-11-12 at 04:28

@doktorlond Great breakdown of your track. Thanks for posting the process and describing how you did it. I really dig your track and knowing it was all built live is really cool. That is the kind of process I’ve been building with my own music. Everyone on the live stream was really enjoying your track.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from attksthdrknss@sunny.garden

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-12 at 05:52

@attksthdrknss nice thanks - ah that is interesting

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-12 at 06:35

@attksthdrknss so if you build a track and record the output live - in what way? are we talking about recording the analog master out from a desk or a soundcard? or is it like some in the box digital mix down or?

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by dAVE Inden || attks th drknss on 2024-11-13 at 00:42

@doktorlond My main device I work with is a Roland SP404 mk2 sampler. I sometimes create the starting samples on my computer or I create them directly on the device.

Once I have the samples I work solely on the SP404 and create patterns to playback or work out a way to play back the samples live and apply effects.

The output of the SP404 is the stereo mix of everything with mastering effects applied and that is plugged into my recorder where I play the track into and record the results however they come out.

Depending on the results I may do another take, but I don’t edit much or really at all afterwards.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from attksthdrknss@sunny.garden

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-13 at 06:06

@attksthdrknss nice ... Sounds like a good process

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by dAVE Inden || attks th drknss on 2024-11-13 at 21:04

@doktorlond Thanks. It has been fun to work out how to create sounds on the device by sampling directly to it and writing from there. That is how I made this whole record in one day: https://music.attksthdrknss.com/life-universe-everything/

The next step for me is to use the newer Looper feature to write and create a song completely live record the improvisation.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from attksthdrknss@sunny.garden

Written by Doktor Lond on 2024-11-13 at 22:11

@attksthdrknss yeah - sounds like really good process indeed! I've always been inspired by limitations.. it fires up my creativity in some way - I feel it's like the same going on for you but - but I don't know 😁

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from doktorlond@mastodon.dubwise.dk

Written by dAVE Inden || attks th drknss on 2024-11-14 at 20:06

@doktorlond Thanks! You are totally correct. Putting limitations on my creative process has been great for me. It does trigger the creative flow for me when I have to stay within parameters I set for myself. I find I actually complete projects more than when I leave things open ended.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from attksthdrknss@sunny.garden