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Written by paulwalk on 2024-11-07 at 07:46

This is an excellent resource for software developers working with DOIs. It dispels all of the most stupid myths I have heard said about DOIs, and some others I didn’t know (e.g. the finer aspects of comparing DOI strings)

https://fosstodon.org/@joewass/113437281415235360

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Written by Graham K on 2024-11-07 at 10:50

@paulwalk In case you have any thoughts, there’s a proposal in the works to register a permanent URI scheme for DOIs that talks about a few of these issues…

https://github.com/sandflow/doi-uri-scheme

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lemieux-doi-uri-scheme/

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Written by paulwalk on 2024-11-07 at 11:07

@gklyne Interesting…. seems like an odd thing to do (but i haven't read the proposal yet). Thanks for sharing!

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Written by Graham K on 2024-11-07 at 11:15

@paulwalk Yes, it’s arguably late in the day to be pushing this, but even if use of the DOI scheme doesn’t catch on (e.g. by implementation in browsers), I think it does serve to codify some existing practices around them. (Disclosure: this isn’t my proposal, but I have been involved in reviewing it and am supportive of the scheme being registered with IANA.)

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Written by Graham K on 2024-11-07 at 11:16

@paulwalk BTW, this is a DOI Foundation initiative.

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Written by herbert on 2024-11-07 at 11:45

@gklyne @paulwalk Quite amazingly, this is the first time I hear about it.

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Written by paulwalk on 2024-11-07 at 12:00

@hvdsomp @gklyne likewise

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Written by Graham K on 2024-11-07 at 12:23

@hvdsomp @paulwalk I did flag it on the IETF URI-review list, and tried to get attention of a couple of Crossref folks, but didn’t know an obvious venue to circulate more widely (and, now I’m officially retired I don’t have the same informal channels).

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Written by Joe on 2024-11-07 at 16:55

@gklyne @hvdsomp @paulwalk There's been talk of DOI URIs for 20 years, and I'm sure I've seen plenty in the wild.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-paskin-doi-uri-04

(I'm former Crossref staff)

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Written by herbert on 2024-11-07 at 17:01

@joewass @gklyne @paulwalk I know about those days! I’m surprised to learn you’re no longer at CrossRef!

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Written by Joe on 2024-11-07 at 18:02

@hvdsomp I was there for over a decade. Time for something new!

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Written by Open Science Community Twente on 2024-11-07 at 12:04

@paulwalk

"It’s possible to register multiple DOIs to the same resource URL. This could happen within a registration agency, or for two registration agencies to register a DOI for the same URL. There aren’t any checks for uniqueness at the DOI level."

Should such a check be put in place?

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Written by paulwalk on 2024-11-07 at 12:08

@OpenSciTwente I guess this be computationally expensive for the Registration Agencies to do - they would have check each new DOI as it was minted or edited. With the possibility of intermediate HTTP redirects this would become very challenging

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