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Written by Evinceo@awful.systems on 2024-11-01 at 12:32

JD Vance outs himself as an SSCer, SSCers react

https://awful.systems/post/2752561

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Written by Soyweiser@awful.systems on 2024-11-01 at 14:29

What a bastardization of that post, and Scott’s general views on the subject

Can someone summarize how this is a big misinterpretation or mistake?

I’m not in any way MAGA or trumpy or a culture war person [sure you are. E: one sort by controversial later and they are indeed a culture war person not a full time one but still], but I’m a long time SSC reader and I thought the post/article was about the fascinating and complete sorta morhph/takeover of the civic “ethos” or civic religion of the elite bluebloods of the USA.

From veneration of founders and founding fathers (up through Abe Lincoln, etc) as the sorta civic glue and religion that we are brought up on, to now embracing LGBTQ+ (not much emphasis on boring normal “L” and “G” [dog barks]) through parades, flags, police cars, crosswalks, holidayds, add campaigns, corporate slogans and logos, etc.

Is this not how most readers understood the article?

Hope this makes some sscers reconsider being a fan of scotts writing. (And yes there was pushback in the replies)

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Written by Sailor Sega Saturn on 2024-11-01 at 14:45

not much emphasis on boring normal “L” and “G”

“Look I’m not really saying G-word and L-word are normal, but I might be willing to invite them to my BBQs if they never mention it, hate rainbows, and allow straight people to cut in line ahead of them as a civic duty.”

Also wait is not even “B” ‘normal’ enough for this guy?

one sort by controversial later and they are indeed a culture war person

Instant regret.

This is asked in all sincerity: Why is there a coherent “community” of lesbians, gays, and transgender people? What is the important linking commonality that makes those groups into a community?

Gee I wonder. Also new rule whenever someone posts that they’re asking something in sincerity or just wanting to understand or “confused”, you’re allowed to laugh in their face before they can finish. Seriously does anyone even fall for this anymore? It’s so obvious.

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Written by Soyweiser@awful.systems on 2024-11-01 at 14:57

They are also concerned about t levels in athletes, and IQ comes up. Which he defends with “If you think none of these tests are actually measuring anything of value, you must need to explain why they correlate so well with life outcomes related to cognition.”

I think a problem with ssc people is that they dont realize they are culture warriors.

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Written by David Gerard on 2024-11-01 at 18:04

i see no evidence they don’t realise just fine

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Written by David Gerard on 2024-11-01 at 18:00

Keep in mind that, for theologically conservative (“the Bible is historically and spiritually accurate”) Christians like myself,

rationalists whoo

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Written by David Gerard on 2024-11-01 at 18:02

“There was a post, [pause], I forget who wrote it” <- the kind of thing I have said several times attempting to avoid leaking rationalist-evidence-bits.

gotta keep that power level under wraps

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