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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 15:08

As far as reaching the people who matter, the obvious difference in impact between:

a) 10 years of the entire web performance community painstakingly documenting and blogging and measuring and despairing about the ghastly performance of React websites and

b) @wesbos posting a youtube short about how fast a website can be when it doesn't use a client-side framework

is not lost on me 😅

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Written by Chris Ferdinandi ⚓️ on 2024-10-24 at 15:13

@scottjehl @wesbos it makes me really fucking angry, if I’m being honest (no shade to Wes at all)

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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 15:15

@cferdinandi @wesbos I'm 100% here for this audience being fired up about improving this situation, however the message reaches them. Wish I knew to call up Wes earlier I guess.

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Written by Chris Ferdinandi ⚓️ on 2024-10-24 at 15:42

@scottjehl @wesbos i’m happy you’ve achieved that level of Zen already. I’m exhausted by how much this industry chases its idols.

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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 15:52

@cferdinandi @wesbos I dunno. I think I'm personally more receptive to criticism/lessons from people I already trust and who share my interests, so it makes sense to me that it landed differently coming from someone in the community

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Written by Chris Ferdinandi ⚓️ on 2024-10-24 at 18:14

@scottjehl @wesbos For sure, that makes sense! But I also think about how many webperf experts could have been a new "person I trust" for the last decade, but they were ignored because all of the big names were still all-in on React.

Better than never, but MAN is it frustrating.

I fully recognize I have 0 chill.

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Written by Harry Roberts on 2024-10-24 at 15:19

@scottjehl @wesbos and it’s fast in spite of itself, not because of. I was gonna do a response but I’m not sure I have the energy 😅

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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 15:23

@csswizardry @wesbos I mean, there are parts I'd describe a little differently too but the important part is the overall reach this has had.

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Written by Max Böck on 2024-10-24 at 15:20

@scottjehl @wesbos I had that same reaction! but hey, anything that works.

Kudos to the team at McMaster-Carr though for making their site so freaking fast that thousands of devs reconsider their framework 😅

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Written by Mia (web luddite) on 2024-10-24 at 15:28

@mxbck @scottjehl @wesbos And they also ship me brass rod when I need it! So that's pretty cool too. :)

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Written by Max Böck on 2024-10-24 at 15:29

@mia @scottjehl @wesbos

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Written by Kilian Valkhof on 2024-10-24 at 15:30

@mia @mxbck @scottjehl @wesbos is that... is that like a codeword thing?

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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 15:34

@mia @mxbck @wesbos hoping we get a how is this website that uses css-that's-not-in-js so fast episode soon

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Written by Aleš Roubíček on 2024-10-24 at 15:54

@scottjehl @mia @mxbck @wesbos just found a website with a whole copy of Tailwind on every page inlined in head, just before all preload links for JavaScripts. I call it web dacedence.

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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 15:56

@alesroubicek @mia @mxbck @wesbos well, I happen to be a big fan of inlining so 🤷‍♂️ 😆

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Written by Dave Rupert on 2024-10-24 at 15:28

@scottjehl @wesbos https://iasip.app/w55JbZTc9E2Prj9mpHkHBw

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Written by Eric Portis on 2024-10-24 at 18:32

@scottjehl @wesbos apart from the (more important) trust-in-the-messenger side of this, there's also like, the messaging difference between:

A) "QuintoAndar reduced LCP by 26% and FID by 72% and saw a 46% reduction in bounce rate, and 87% increase in pages per session, and a 5% improvement in conversion."

B) Let’s discover how this ancient site goes wicked vroom vroom, together

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Written by Scott Jehl on 2024-10-24 at 18:34

@eeeps @wesbos I 100% feel B works better yes

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