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Written by blibla@slrpnk.net on 2024-10-15 at 10:11

Is Cromite on Android a viable alternative to Firefox based browsers? Any Experience?

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Written by Fijxu@programming.dev on 2024-10-15 at 10:40

I use it every day and I never had problems with it. It’s pretty OK.but I would like to have something more powerful like Unlock Origin which is available on Firefox for android but the performance is not that good and I didn’t like how it worked

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Written by 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖 on 2024-10-15 at 10:58

Have u tried mull? Ive had no problems with it so far.

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Written by lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works on 2024-10-15 at 13:13

Same here.

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Written by Stomata on 2024-10-15 at 16:33

It has site isolation problem and it’s slow 😮‍💨 . it used to be my favourite

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Written by JustMarkov@lemmy.ml on 2024-10-16 at 02:12

It is an important hardening feature, but the browser isn’t completely insecure without it assuming it is up-to-date and that you aren’t on the receiving end of targeted/zero-day attacks. Furthermore (in Chromium) with isolated renderer processes there is still some inherent attack surface of the main process that can allow a single exploit, just like in Firefox.

divestos.org/pages/browsers

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Written by WeAreAllOne on 2024-10-15 at 10:41

I used both Cromite and Brave. Ended up using Brave (disabling all the crypto things) since it offers better handling in ad blocks and anti fingerprint.

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Written by asudox on 2024-10-15 at 11:42

Brave is shady crypto hype software.

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Written by WeAreAllOne on 2024-10-15 at 17:11

If you are referring to the crypto side of things you can easily disable them. I don’t see any spyware TBH.

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Written by asudox on 2024-10-15 at 18:05

If you look up what they did in the past, you’d know.

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Written by LWD@lemm.ee on 2024-10-15 at 20:06

Mozilla is adopting a ton of the things that were wrong with Brave. Recently, Brave criticized Mozilla’s PPA data collection for being too centralized, which implies to me that otherwise, there’s a lot of overlap between the two allegedly “private” systems. I don’t trust Brave telemetry, but it seems not even they can come up with many ways to differentiate themselves from Mozilla.

If they’re different somehow, I would love to know how.

In a way other than accrued trust or distrust, that is. At this point, I don’t think Mozilla is owed any inherent trust.

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Written by asudox on 2024-10-15 at 20:45

Did I ever talk about Mozilla? Who said Mozilla or stock Firefox is good? They’re ass.

Mozilla is ass and stock firefox is worse than stock chrome. I wouldn’t use Librewolf if not for the monopoly.

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Written by LWD@lemm.ee on 2024-10-15 at 21:33

No argument from me there. I didn’t mean to come across this argumentative, I just wanted to point it out here because of the context of this post (someone looking to move away from Firefox). And because, to me, ad telemetry still is a black box.

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Written by asudox on 2024-10-16 at 13:24

All good.

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Written by WeAreAllOne on 2024-10-16 at 07:12

The ones that you refer to is for them to make money. Ok so why is that bad? Do you pay to use their browser? No. Are they funded by Google like Mozilla is? No. Does this tactic interfere with your browsing since you can disable these shit? No.

I’m not defending Brave at all but one should be criticizing objectively.

Ladybird is at least 2 years out from any production version. And they still have funding I think.

So comparing all browser I believe they least shit is Brave. Librewolf is fine too and in terms of speed it’s not that far behind and in real life no one will give a shit or even notice. It all comes down to usability in the browsing experience.

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Written by asudox on 2024-10-16 at 07:19

Justifying url injections for money?

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Written by WeAreAllOne on 2024-10-16 at 14:28

It was injecting specific urls when one was using their crypto shit. The got caught and corrected it. Again, not saying this is justified but among the others I find Brave the least shit. It’s the only browser that can trick effectively coveryourtracks.eff.org

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Written by Gerudo@lemm.ee on 2024-10-15 at 17:39

It’s turned off by default

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Written by lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works on 2024-10-15 at 10:46

Well, let’s see what happens first. If we’ll be able to disable all the junk, it’ll be okay.

I still wanna support diversity among browser engines.

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Written by blibla@slrpnk.net on 2024-10-16 at 06:38

i think it’s better to jump ship now so that they get scared and stop the enshitification early before it s too late

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Written by lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works on 2024-10-16 at 07:29

Yeah, I don’t think that’s possible. 😅

People have been jumping ship for a decade, and it hasn’t helped. They’ll probably have to sink first, and by then it might be too late if someone else has filled the void.

I, for one, won’t be coming back if it comes to that.

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Written by Stomata on 2024-10-15 at 12:25

I recently shifted from Firefox based Browsers.

I’m currently testing cromite.

One issue is it’s ad blocker is not that perfect. It has easy list as it’s main blacklist.

I think it would be really nice if they add ublock origin , ad guard or other blocklist.

Though I added next dns as secure dns in the Browser . it has all the blocklist i need

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Written by Stomata on 2024-10-15 at 12:35

So i just found that you can add custom filters . i added stevenblack

You guys can also try it

raw.githubusercontent.com/StevenBlack/…/hosts

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Written by redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-10-16 at 19:35

FYI this increases your fingerprintability

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Written by Stomata on 2024-10-17 at 00:04

How actually

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Written by Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works on 2024-10-15 at 13:17

You can add any filter list you want to it. You can also use GreaseMonkey user scripts.

I still prefer Mull, but I keep Cromite installed

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Written by smeg@feddit.uk on 2024-10-15 at 13:43

Bromite used to be the only non-built-in browser recommended by GrapheneOS, and I’ve not seen anything bad posted since it became Cromite. Apparently Firefox on Android still doesn’t have site isolation so it’s still a toss-up between security and the ominous shadow of Google.

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Written by boredsquirrel on 2024-10-15 at 21:21

It didnt become Cromite. Bromite was abandoned and a single person or a couple forked it and created Cromite, embedding code from AdBlockPlus etc.

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Written by smeg@feddit.uk on 2024-10-15 at 22:44

Yeah I know, I think a project dying and continuing as a fork still counts though

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Written by redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-10-16 at 19:34

The guy who forked it (uazo)was a regular maintainer of bromite

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Written by boredsquirrel on 2024-10-16 at 19:47

Well that is another pro Cromite.

I will remove the comment then, as I honestly couldnt find anything making it better than Chrome

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Written by JustMarkov@lemmy.ml on 2024-10-16 at 02:14

it’s still a toss-up between security and the ominous shadow of Google.

No content blocker = no security.

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Written by smeg@feddit.uk on 2024-10-16 at 08:23

Fortunately I think they both have content blocking available. Also I set my private DNS to block ads in every app.

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Written by Undertaker@feddit.org on 2024-10-15 at 17:32

No

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Written by Rose@lemmy.zip on 2024-10-15 at 17:40

That logic makes absolutely no sense. Look into Google before you take issue with Mozilla.

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Written by blibla@slrpnk.net on 2024-10-16 at 06:38

i get where you are coming from but right now i am more mad at mozilla xD

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Written by EddoWagt@feddit.nl on 2024-10-16 at 09:30

Why?

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Written by Gutless2615@ttrpg.network on 2024-10-16 at 10:14

Keep your eye on the prize. Google and Mozilla aren’t even in the same area code of shit. Firefox is the obvious answer.

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Written by boredsquirrel on 2024-10-15 at 21:19

I heard that Cromite is shady, and recommendations pro Brave instead.

Which is crazy as Brave is so much more bloated.

Mulch is a based browser for regular Android, close behind Vanadium in features and release cadence, but without patches that break regular Android and only work on GrapheneOS.

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Written by smeg@feddit.uk on 2024-10-15 at 23:28

What have you heard about Cromite which makes it more shady than Brave!?

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Written by boredsquirrel on 2024-10-16 at 11:08

Honestly somewhere in GrapheneOS forums but I was not alble to find it.

Just that they embed code for their adblocking engine that is by ABP. Which may be fair, may be not.

GrapheneOS people recommend Brave, but no idea why, apart from the privacy advantages over Vanadium.

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Written by nuclear1986@feddit.nl on 2024-10-19 at 06:42

This is what they mean I think

grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/111966180001152300

discuss.grapheneos.org/d/…/61

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Written by smeg@feddit.uk on 2024-10-19 at 08:21

Oh wow, not ideal

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Written by moonpiedumplings@programming.dev on 2024-10-15 at 21:48

I use cromite, and it’s good, but the adblocker is unable to handle the more aggressive popups and ads.

Thus, cromite is my main browser and I use firefox for… other stuff. This setup is mainly because I’m too lazy to install Mull or another firefox based browser to be my main option.

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Written by Scary le Poo on 2024-10-16 at 02:41

Lolno.

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Written by d0ntpan1c@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 2024-10-16 at 04:36

Mull and Fennec are way more obvious android browsers to switch to if Firefox doesnt meet your privacy needs/concerns.

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Written by blibla@slrpnk.net on 2024-10-16 at 06:47

for now yes, but what I’m arguing is that they might not be in the long run

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Written by 68silver@beehaw.org on 2024-10-17 at 12:58

I use Iceraven with UBO on my android devices.

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Written by Upstream7564@discuss.tchncs.de on 2024-10-22 at 01:35

TL;DR: Yes.

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