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Written by deater on 2024-10-11 at 00:17

so as always ACM/IEEE apparently don't think they have the resources (despite charging you $1000) to offer a safe conference experience, but they apparently do have the resources to hire lawyers to draft up a document saying attending is a death wish and your heirs and next of kin are just gonna have to move on with their lives.

This is actually why I didn't go last year, but unfortunately it's hard to keep doing my current job without attending eventually.

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Written by deater on 2024-10-11 at 13:11

I should clarify that perhaps there is nothing they could realistically do to make things safer, but if the conference is as risky as this document makes it seem, the responsible thing to do would just not have it (or have it online) and not try to weasel out by having people sign things like this.

instead if you are presenting you are required to do so in person. and from what I understand there's a push to be in person because conferences often depend on hotel kickbacks for their budget

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Written by 🇺🇦 haxadecimal on 2024-10-11 at 11:19

@deater78

I don't like that, but I am honestly curious about what actions they are refusing to take, which if taken would provide the desired "safe conference experience"? Do other conference organizers take those actions?

I'm not trying to argue that ACM & IEEE shouldn't be better than other conference organizers; I'm just trying to.undsrstand what concrete measures should be taken..

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Written by J. Random Haqkir on 2024-10-11 at 12:14

@brouhaha @deater78 UV-C, HEPA, CO2 monitors, ventilation, free masks, mask policy, and oh, how about having the guts to at least admit that COVID is one of those pesky "communicable diseases" their laywers are referring to?

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Written by 4am ❧ on 2024-10-11 at 14:21

@deater78 the (ongoing) pandemic has really shined a light on the actual reasons that things were the way they were

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Written by vandys on 2024-10-11 at 15:14

@deater78 OTOH, at some point you need to make the decision to just get back out in the world--good or bad, safe or dangerous.

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