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Written by squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de on 2024-10-10 at 06:37

Let's talk about ClubsAll

https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/23365372

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Written by OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 2024-10-10 at 07:02

From a entrepreneur point of view, this looks like a clear monetization attempt. Gather content from federated communities, sell to investors on the name “fediverse”. B2C is generally very hard to pull off because there’s so much competition so I doubt they’ll succeed, but there is that saying about seeing what sticks on the wall.

Also, from both a user and entrepreneur point of view, you need to break into markets by starting small. The fediverse heavily leveraged the open source community to get started. I personally would not be on Lemmy if Lemmy wasn’t AGPL. ClubsAll doesn’t have that.

With no ill intent, I hope they fail. They’re not contributing, and we don’t need this sort of proprietary cancer in the fediverse.

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Written by Blaze (he/him) on 2024-10-10 at 07:29

With no ill intent, I hope they fail. They’re not contributing, and we don’t need proprietary cancer in the fediverse.

Personnally, I hope they open source, because the interface is visually appealing and quite fast.

What I expect is most instances defederating from them soon, killing the product in the process.

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Written by cabbage on 2024-10-10 at 08:01

Any reason why they should be defederated, other than "we don't like closed source around here"?

I really don't mind closed platforms being federated as long as it doesn't hurt the rest of us in any way. If it brings in some users who are drawn in by the interface, that's great.

Of course, being a single site it might draw the wrong crowd, and end up having serious moderation problems. In that case of course defederation is a natural choice.

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Written by Blaze (he/him) on 2024-10-10 at 08:05

Based on another comment, they are not federating their communities to the other Lemmy instances.

They might be blocking this as a way to keep their future users on their site rather than allow them to instance jump.

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Toot

Written by cabbage on 2024-10-10 at 09:34

I don't think this will be much of a problem for the rest of us, as the users over there will also not be interested in posting in communities where they get fewer interactions. It sounds bad for people who want to start a community at cluball, but unless it somehow gets larger than the rest of the threadiverse combined it's not really much of a problem for the rest of us.

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Descendants

Written by Blaze (he/him) on 2024-10-10 at 09:54

Not being able to host your own ClubsAll instance is another issue.

Let’s take a hypothetical scenario

Seems to bring us back to the current Reddit situation with extra steps.

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