Ancestors

Written by blakestacey@awful.systems on 2024-09-30 at 05:05

Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 6 October 2025

https://awful.systems/post/2505486

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Written by gerikson@awful.systems on 2024-09-30 at 17:28

Following up from this truth bomb: awful.systems/comment/4877052

@Soyweiser: Sorry AGIbros, not even the Dutch believe AGI is near.

For your delectation, here are the HN comments

I’m in the other camp: I remember when we thought an AI capable of solving Go was astronomically impossible and yet here we are. This article reads just like the skeptic essays back then.

Ah yes my coworkers communicate exclusively in Go games and they are always winning because they are AI and I am on the street, poor.

There’s not that much else to sneer at though, plenty of reasonable people.

Here’s the lobste.rs disucssion: lobste.rs/s/4xzxqk

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Written by gerikson@awful.systems on 2024-09-30 at 19:21

The best thing about the lobste.rs thread is to identify prompt fondlers among the brethren.

Here’s something I’ve never heard of before:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec's_paradox

Moravec wrote in 1988: “it is comparatively easy to make computers exhibit adult level performance on intelligence tests or playing checkers[…]”

Apparently he had GPT back then!

Anyway is this anything anyone takes seriously? Steven Pinker makes an appearance in the wiki page, which is a bit of a red flag.

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Toot

Written by imadabouzu@awful.systems on 2024-10-01 at 07:11

Moravec’s Paradox is actually more interesting than it appears. You don’t have take his reasoning or Pinker’s seriously but the observation is salient. Also the paradox gets stated in other ways by other scientists, it’s a common theme.

One way I often think about it: in order for your to survive, the intelligence of moving in unknown spaces and managing numerous fuzzy energy systems is way more important to prioritize and master than like, the abstract conceptual spaces that are both not full of calories and are also cheaper to externalize anyways.

It’s part of why I don’t think there is a globally coherent heirarchy of intelligence, or potentially even general intelligence at all. Just, the distances and spaces that a thing occupies, and the competencies that define being in that space.

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Descendants