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Written by Matt Baer on 2024-09-28 at 02:04

The fediverse is a strange place to be sometimes. It's an open network where progress happens in fits and starts in random, often hidden, pockets. And the rest don't often hear what's really going on. In the 6 years I've built on #ActivityPub, we've all had to fight for some kind of coordination.

Especially re: the new #SocialWebFoundation (which I've backed as an outside supporter via my tiny company @write_as), you can see something new is happening.

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Written by Matt Baer on 2024-09-28 at 02:06

E.g. the days of every fedi platform needing to be open source (as you'd get dogpiled for back in 2018) are gone. Proprietary platforms and major corps like Meta are joining, and they're collaborating with other major fedi platforms behind the scenes to take this all mainstream.

But that's what's happening right now, just so everyone knows.

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Written by Matt Baer on 2024-09-28 at 02:07

And there should probably be some more transparency. And it can absolutely be alienating, especially to long-time fedizens.

But it doesn't exclude similar efforts from everyone building this space. It doesn't crush those fighting for what has made this place great in the first place.

The fediverse is everyone's, and we should all recognize that. Don't lose hope. Keep on building the web we all want to see.

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Written by Steve Bate on 2024-09-28 at 03:52

@matt "It doesn't crush those fighting for what has made this place great in the first place." Diversity (tech and social) is what's made the Fediverse great for me. The "Social Web" Foundation wants to define the Fediverse as ActivityPub-only and they have the resources (money and a $1.4 trillion corporation) to potentially do it. That is an attempt to crush the tech diversity that's made the Fedi great.

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Toot

Written by Matt Baer on 2024-09-28 at 06:25

@steve agreed diversity is one of the best things about the fediverse. And I see where they say ActivityPub / the fediverse is a part of the social web, but not where it's exclusively the social web. What is that in reference to?

Also, I don't see where Meta owns them. From what I know, they're an outside supporter, like the other orgs listed on their launch.

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Descendants

Written by Steve Bate on 2024-09-28 at 06:37

@matt SWF says: "The “social web”, also called the “Fediverse”, is a network of independent social platforms connected with the open standard protocol ActivityPub." (not connected with a protocol such as ActivityPub). Combine that with Evan's frequent posts about the desire for a one protocol Fediverse and the meaning is clear.

I didn't say Meta owned the Foundation.

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