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Written by devilish666@lemmy.world on 2024-09-16 at 14:07

Yup...i can confirm that

https://lemmy.world/post/19832670

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Written by lime! on 2024-09-16 at 14:35

honestly i expected the fifth panel to be full of things like “GIL”, “2to3”, “virtualenv” “pip vs conda vs poetry vs…”, “mypy”, etc

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Toot

Written by dariusj18@lemmy.world on 2024-09-16 at 14:46

Yeah, it’s not about complexity things you can do with python, it’s the complexity of getting it to run. That continues to be the biggest pain point for me.

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Written by spacecadet@lemm.ee on 2024-09-16 at 15:19

This is why I refuse to work in production code bases in python, it’s a nightmare of build systems, linters, package managers (dear god help the poor soul who accidentally pulled from pip’d from pypi and not your companies artifactory instance), formatters, convoluted ci pipelines that always seem to fail, a series of “senior” devs that will make you redo everything because you wrote your own map (we don’t use functional programming here meme) instead of a for loop (can’t use list comprehension for “code readability issues). Got to the point of just saying fuck it, I’ll write it in Scala or rust, SBT and Cargo god tier.

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Written by SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 2024-09-16 at 15:44

You misspelled C++

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Written by xan1242@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-09-16 at 16:36

C++ is at least backwards compatible.

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Written by xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 2024-09-16 at 17:07

Wait does python not have built in functional list comprehension? Even PHP has that built in at this point.

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Written by Phrodo_00@lemmy.world on 2024-09-16 at 19:22

Python is probably the language that popularized them, if not invented them. They’re saying the team doesn’t like using them.

My take is that other than C++, where it’s reasonable forbidden language features are a smell for the team not having a healthy understanding of the language

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Written by azimir@lemmy.ml on 2024-09-16 at 19:40

As per all too often, the functional programming world invented them. Haskell (and its ilk) usually has all the future cool stuff already. Then python picks it up, then it moves over to C#/Java, then C++ says “mee too”!

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Written by grue@lemmy.world on 2024-09-16 at 18:39

Ha, you haven’t lived [in Hell] until you’ve tried to maintain a Jython build, with Python package dependencies (not just Java ones), in a production environment, in the 2020s.

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