Follow-up Two: Mobian on the Pixel 3a / 3a XL
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/22388672
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Also, I keep some notes up to date over on my Forgejo instance: git.erebion.eu/forgejo/erebion/sargo-temp
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I’ve been testing a handful of distros between my 6T and 3a as well, UBports, Droidian, Pmos, etc, lately I’ve been a little obsessed with wanting to try Sailfish OS, but it seems it’s not worth trying in the USA without X, I’m unsure if it’s even possible to purchase X here
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No idea, but you could of course install Waydroid on Mobian. I hope Android Translation Layer (gitlab.com/android_translation_layer) will at some point get to a state where it is usable as the superior Waydroid alternative for many people.
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Thanks for the tip, good looking out, the main need for X isn’t android for me but instead VOLTE
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What males ATL better than waydroid?
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It is to Android apps what WINE is to Windows programs, while Waydroid is to Android apps what something between Docker and a VM would be to server software.
Actually, Waydroid is not too dissimilar from running, for example, an Ubuntu Desktop system in a Docker container on a Debian desktop system, just so you can use snap packages… Instead of installing snapd on Debian. (Not that I want snapd.)
Waydroid is more like an Android container appliance that runs a full Android system, while ATL, as the name Android Translation Layer suggests, translates functions and API calls, used by Android apps, into the appropriate methods of doing things on a regular GNU/Linux system (in contrast to an Android Runtime/Linux system), thereby being much more efficient, more comfortable to use and having the potential of integrating into the system really well.
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No idea, but you could of course install Waydroid on Mobian. I hope Android Translation Layer (gitlab.com/android_translation_layer) will at some point get to a state where it is usable as the superior Waydroid alternative for many people.
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Awesome! I’ll give it another shot this week.
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Let me know how it goes! You might notice an issue I have missed and can then fix. :)
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Amazing work! I’m very excited to see mobile Linux reach a usable state for every day processing. Thank your for your time and energy. It is valuable and going to good use.
Why the Pixel 3a? Is there anything special about it (or not special, which might mean my old 3XL is good for more than gathering dust?)
How can I get involved? I know my way around C and would love to pitch in.
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Yup. It definitely is now ready for everyday use, though there are still a few smaller issues I’ve got to fix. But nothing that stops me from using it now.
The only thing special about the Pixel 3a is that I had it already. Maybe it is special in that it is now the smallest Linux phone that is supported by a mainline kernel AND which is actually usable as a phone (for some other phones audio does not work, for example). Some might call a headphone jack something special… or an eSIM, as there are not many Linux phones with an eSIM.
To get involved, I recommend joining the Moban Development Matrix room: #mobian-dev:matrix.debian.social
Pretty sure we can find something where skills in C would be helpful.
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Lovely work!
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Thank you. :)
Have a nice day!
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Seeing posts like this inspires me to consider getting an older device and diving into projects like this myself. It’s amazing to think about all the possibilities and what could be created!!
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Definitely do! It’s a lot of fun and it feels great to have Mobian on the phone instead of having old Android on it or even a phone in the trash and no phone.
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If I‘m not completely mistaken, the chip is the same as on my oneplus6. I run postmarketOS/phosh but camera is dead for now. I dont have enough insight to grasp if its just a legal issue or more. I feel like the two projects are quite similar but the differences are hard to grasp really. Whats your background and do you have experience with postmarketos? How do you experience mobians installation and documentation?
Have a good one.
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Thank you very much for reaponding! Awesome to read about your efforts and mobian as an OS. How would you describe the daily driveability (on its own and compared to postmarketos)?
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It’s okay. I like that I can do whatever I want. There are some smaller issues still, but I’m fine with those, considering all the freedom I get.
I mean, I have to set the right SIM card slot and run a command to make Bluetooth work, after every boot, until that is solved. It’s not too bad. Takes me ~25 seconds.
Only annoying issue that is next on my to do list: Have the phone wake up when using an alarm clock. For now I just leave an Android phone next to my bed for that. Soon that will be solved as well. Apparently I just have to get some Systemd configuration right, but have not yet had a closer look.
Overall I am pretty happy with it. Yet I would not give it to my parents and expect them to use it like any other phone.
If you are a nerd who does need an alarm clock or a camera in their phone, or can at least work around that for now, it’s already a usable phone and messaging device.
No idea how that compares to postmarketOS. I have not tried daily driving it, as instead I intend to find issues on Mobian and solve those.
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Awesome report! Thanks. For me on postmarketos its the following:
What doesnt work at all:
What needs work:
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Headphones work for me and should as well on Mobian. Calls via Bluetooth do not work yet, not sure how to route the audio to the headsets. But I know there’s some stuff going on and people are working on improving the audio configs, should all be much better very soon.
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What I really ask myself sometimes is why libraries and such things are not shared between the mobile OS community since they work on similar platforms. PostmarketOS has now implemented systemd afaik so I think a LOT of things will be similar.
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That’s a great list of working stuff. Brilliant. I hope that one day that’ll be on a device that isn’t impossible to find here.
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I’m sure you can find another device that can run Linux. :)
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This sounds fantastic, thanks for all that work!
It's great to see all these developments on pmOS and mobian!
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