US Gov to explore requiring 3d printer manufacturers and software developers to contain controls to prevent users from manufacturing firearms components
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Boy THAT will work! Good idea government!
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Down right idiotic. I’m all for some better gun control, but this is just a stupid idea.
If Texas wants to put a bounty on women, we should be able to put a bounty on guns. It’d be a lot more effective too.
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I’ll never understand why we just can’t do the exact same things as Republicans do thats within the letter of the law (hopefully spirit-ish but letter is the main concern)
Illegal migrants employed? Texas bounty
Illegal guns possession or production? Texas bounty
Abuse of religious tax exemption or religious political activism? Texas bounty
Seperation of church and state violations? Texas bounty
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Something Chuck Norris could support….
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as a non-American, do I even dare ask what you’re talking about?
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A while back some Texas lawmakers wanted to offer a reward for turning in women seeking out of state abortions. I think that’s what the commenter is referring to.
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Oh right that. Some of Y’all are nuts.
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They did actually pass that law.
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Republicans literally hunting women
Liberals: “if only we could disarm women, things would be better.”
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Good luck with that given 3D printers are full of open-source software.
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Don’t bring that to their attention- they’ll start banning open source too.
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POLICE, HE RELEASED HIS SOFTWARE FREE FOR ANYONE TO USE, SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT
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Working on open source software was one of the things they used against Aaron Swartz.
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Death by being SWATEed after a Github commit.
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git commit crime
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Damn it’s been a long time since I’ve had to use the whole thing:
Rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off.
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Lol, most of this crap is DIY, good luck with that
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I see 10,000 forks in the near future, and fully decentralized ways of hosting them. God forbid we actually try to regulate real guns, no it’s those damn hobbyists who spent thousands on printers!
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If they could do this, it would be a good idea. It’s just not possible.
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Yes, because it's so difficult to get a gun in America any other way /s
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Probably the gun industry lobbying for this 🫢
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Next up: Smith and Wesson is granted a copyright for DRM on STL files.
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where are people distributing 3d printed gun models? I’m guessing thingiverse has already cracked down on weapons
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There are still a bunch of torrents being seeded out there.
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Fosscad.org has a good zip archive, I still see some from time to time on printables aswell.
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Are they going to require government monitors if you own a CNC machine next?
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Ban pipes when?
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It wouldn’t surprise me if somebody tried to get such a thing passed in a couple of years.
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Anyone ever try to photocopy currency?
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Money is easy, many currencies have the “Eurion constellation” which can be recognized by the copier. It will be much harder to recognise a 3d printed part to detect something that can be made into a gun.
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3d printing != paper printing. It’s largely hobbyist ran technology, and almost entirely open source. You’re not going to get tracking dots or currency replication prevention into open source software.
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Oh I know, I’m saying they’re both equally ridiculous.
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Well, not equally ridiculous, since the example you have given has actually been implemented in large scale. So basically what you’re doing is giving reasons for non-tech-savy people to think it can be done.
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Yeah that was my thoughts too. It’s not like it can’t be bypassed but it’s not “easy.” This is kinda how I see it going for commercial 3D printers. It’s not a bad thing either. I’ve always been a fan of making people earn dangerous knowledge & skills. Even in fictional universes like Star Trek there’s restrictions on using a replicator to make weapons.
So it’s not unreasonable, imho, to put some kind of guard rails up that force people to actively bypass restrictions in making weapons.
The trick will be telling the difference between making a nerf gun, action figure guns, and an actual weapon. That I don’t see being possible at this time. Too many edge cases that don’t neatly fit.
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I love technological non-solutions to social problems. They are the only thing the work better then passing more laws that say you can’t murder people with guns.
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You can’t 3D print a gun, but you can buy one without a background check. Brilliant.
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Think of the stock prices!
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There is essentially no way to enforce, or even monitor this, like it’s fundamentally impossible without controlling everything from stl creation, to weapon construction.
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Hit the nail right on the head for what they want. Why do you think they are making laws to ban porn? It’s a hide behind think of the children to get your foot in the door to control more
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Clearly she has no idea how 3D printers or guns work
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or the us, isnt it easy to just get a regular gun in there?
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It is, yes. But it’s also legal to make your own.
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Given my skill with 3d model creation, i’d be more likely to create something that would hurt me than inflicting harm on someone else. Mostly when I take that razor sharp tool to remove anything from the build plate, but also just my awful measurements and tolerances.
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Normally this is when the “small government” Republican party says “let’s not get government that too involved”…
…that is if they didn’t go full reich
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The pressure behind a bullet ~14,000psi. The pressure that a 3D resin can handle ~ 200psi. Any questions?
Oh yeah, how do 3D printed guns kill? 1) use non 3d printed parts or 2, hold the bullets in the gun-like case, carry a hammer, if you need to shoot the bullet just get the bullet out between two of your fingers, run like crazy towards the target, then bury that sucker with a real nice hammer thud. If you practice real good, you can hit a good 3 or 4 target spots. If you do it it slow enough you can probably hit one bullet with another bullet! Well, you can always do that. Heck you can put 10 bullets or more in a baggie and they will all hit each other.
I guess if you need a ruzzian war diy survivor gun, just go-to the hardware store and get a pipe. No 3D printed stuff. You can make the handle from wood! That’s literally all a 3D printer is good for in gun making, the handle. But you can carve one out with a router. Are routers illegal yet because you can make a gun … handle…?
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They should put controls on lathes and mills to prevent making guns. Metal guns are a lot more effective than plastic guns anyways. /s
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My understanding is that the metal parts are bought. The only part of a gun that is controlled legally is fine in plastic
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This is basically how today’s 3d printed guns work, but even still the gun isn’t good for more then a few magazines afaik. So it’s interesting as a way to create a gun that isn’t serialized and the ATF can’t trace, but it’s not durable, and it still requires a good deal of precision engineering/cost, so its not feasible to print a truck-load and sell them for cheap.
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How many mass shooters finish more than a few magazines? My guess is very few
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Probably the same number that used 3d-printed guns.
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Only a few magazines you say.
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The video kind of proves my point. It was janky, he fired <20bullets, and it jammed several times during the demo. Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool as hell, but yea not very practical for anything and certainly not durable enough to be a viable alternative to CNC/Milling.
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Yeah like that won’t be bypassed in about 3 seconds.
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They can explore the requirement, but they will get lost during their expedition.
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Never stopped them before from still passing half-assed laws.
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And those half-assed laws make great pretext laws.
“That guy has a 3d printer! He might be fabbing ghost guns!”
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Taking this purely as an engineering task, how is this remotely possible? I can barely begin to imagine how restrictions on what can be printed could be set. Am I missing something obvious? Some kind of contextual understanding of the object seems to be necessary… please don’t tell me their proposed solution is AI.
In any case it will never work because 3D printing is so easy for makers to do from scratch, so any solution will fail to prevent printed guns from being made.
Again, this is just the pragmatic engineering angle. Please don’t respond with political arguments.
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I don’t know the answer to the question, but paper printers cannot print bank notes apparently
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