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Written by iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee on 2024-08-29 at 02:55

Any reliable group making AV1 releases consistently?

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Written by pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 2024-08-29 at 03:13

I too am interested in the answer to this question

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Written by The_sleepy_woke_dialectic [he/him] on 2024-08-29 at 03:13

You can set up a command to transcode into AV1 once a download completes. Would that help?

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Written by catloaf@lemm.ee on 2024-08-29 at 03:15

There would be quality loss from transcoding lossy formats to lossy formats. OP would have to prefer the highest quality, and transcode after download.

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Written by ReedReads@lemmy.zip on 2024-08-29 at 03:13

I’m pretty active in the av1 community. Most of us who use av1 encode our own from the raw blurays or high quality remuxes. Besides the av1 content on public trackers, I think I saw a group called onlyfaffs who were putting out some av1 content, but imo, their filesizes are too large, so I avoid them if possible.

The other thing to worry about is that most people who use av1 also convert the audio to opus. Fully opensource codecs and all that. The issue is you don’t know what bitrate they are using for their conversion. So audio is a concern too when downloading av1 content.

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Written by can@sh.itjust.works on 2024-08-29 at 03:36

What’s wrong with FLAC?

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Written by ReedReads@lemmy.zip on 2024-08-29 at 03:44

Nothing. It’s just that you don’t see people use Flack very often as an audio Kodak for movies or TV series. At least I haven’t seen it very often.

The only issue would be if you were trying to transcode Dolby Digital to flac. That is not a transcode you want to do.

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Written by can@sh.itjust.works on 2024-08-29 at 04:00

That is not a transcode you want to do.

Why is that?

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Written by ReedReads@lemmy.zip on 2024-08-29 at 04:09

Dolby Digital (e-ac & e-ac3) are lossy codecs. So transcoding a lossy codec to a lossless codec, is not a good idea.

You can read more about it here: interviewfor.red/en/transcodes.html

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Written by Որբունի on 2024-08-29 at 05:30

Lossy to lossless is fine it’s just a waste of space.

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Written by ferret on 2024-08-29 at 18:43

It’s extra wasted space because compression artifacts are hard to compress lossless. It’s a shit sandwich, so people advise against it.

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Written by can@sh.itjust.works on 2024-08-29 at 15:37

I didnt raise that were lossy. Makes sense now.

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Written by ReedReads@lemmy.zip on 2024-08-29 at 03:42

Okay so I just went a private general tracker and looked up an av1 movie. It is a 2014 feature film encoded by the WhiskyJack group (the better trackers don’t allow AV1 content yet). For this film, the audio codec is Opus. I looked in the nfo and for the audio file, it says that they are using Opus 5.1 with a 32-bit bitdepth. That’s not ideal. For 6-channel audio, we recommend 256 kb/s. 192 is acceptable, but it’s going to be another 20 megabytes to bump it up to 256, so why not do it?

Also, it doesn’t tell you what the source is. So if the original audio was ac3 or e-ac3, it is not going to sound great.

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Written by Davel23 on 2024-08-29 at 03:57

Bit depth and bit rate are not the same thing.

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Written by ReedReads@lemmy.zip on 2024-08-29 at 04:02

Yikes. Thanks for catching that. I mistyped.

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Written by liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-08-29 at 06:53

A properly muxed mkv will display the resulting audio bitrate. And if you use opusenc, it will embed the encoder settings in the track.

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Written by Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-08-29 at 13:21

I think variable bitrate is preferable. With a variable bitrate you don’t have a single, specific, telling bitrate show up. In the end you depend on the encoder doing decent work. Which group names can be useful for, to identify and revisit good ones.

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Written by liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-08-29 at 06:51

There are a handful of groups putting out what I would consider decent AV1 encodes. A couple PTs allow them, and there are groups on 1337x. Just grab a couple from each tag you can find and see if they meet your needs. Generally speaking, look for groups which note their source, which encoder they are using, and ideally what settings they used in general.

AV1 has come a long way fast, but in my experience a good x265 encode is still better for live action.

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Written by N0x0n@lemmy.ml on 2024-08-29 at 07:55

I don’t mind if my server is going to have to transcode for most clients

I mean AV1 is very well supported on most clients/new devices these days. While I do not know any good groups that only encodes in AV1, I personally download high quality BD rips and re-encode them to SVT-AV1 without any visual quality loss (for my personal taste and perspective).

I’m not an audiophile or videophile and do not have the necessary devices to decode high end 1080p nor 4k video streams.

About AV1 I think only iOS devices do not have a native software/hardware AV1 decoder (I migh be wrong here).

As for your question, I wish there where more encoders that do AV1 :/

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Written by Comexs@lemmy.zip on 2024-08-29 at 08:33

I have some guess as to why that is and sorry for the lack of spell check and double checking fact since it’s late for me.

Note: I like av1 but I haven’t found it outstanding for anime other than crazy low bit rates and from what I remember it is great with high resolution video which anime isn’t know for.

I don’t re-encode my rips but I might use it for transcoding for Jellyfin when ever set that up.

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Written by ancoraunamoka@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 2024-08-30 at 04:49

For most stuff i release, x265 objectively (vmaf and other metrics) and subjectively looks better than av1, especially for grainy stuff and older anime. I have had success only with some action movies.

Opus on the other hand… it’s great

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