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Written by Jay Williams on 2024-08-23 at 19:23

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Written by Jay Williams on 2024-08-23 at 19:25

I believe this 100%, and have seen it happen time and time again. If we ever want to get to a more sustainable future, we've got to get away from these single use products.

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Written by Peter H on 2024-08-24 at 15:31

@jaywilliams It's 100% true. What you buy isn't the device, it's the limited (!) license to use it.

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Written by Lykso on 2024-08-25 at 15:02

@jaywilliams I suspect this involves doing away with capitalism.

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Written by Jay Williams on 2024-08-28 at 15:48

@lykso I'm of the opinion any unconstrained economic system does more harm than good, regardless of it's ideology.

Rater than doing away with capitalism entirely, I think a better solution would be to pass laws and regulations which would incentivize business to build more reusable and recyclable products, and they'll naturally follow the route maximize their profits.

Obviously for something like that to work in the real world, you'd have to have to have some means of validating that the products are actually reusable/recyclable and not just green-washed. Not exactly and easy feat to pull off, but there's enough smart people out there (I hope!) that could figure it out.

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Written by Jay Williams on 2024-08-28 at 15:50

@lykso On that same front, I see the whole "right to repair" movement as a good step in that direction.

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Written by Lykso on 2024-08-28 at 16:29

@jaywilliams I likewise tend to think that quests for ideological purity are wrong-headed. Idealism ignores material conditions and the necessary awkwardness of transitional states and the ambiguity inherent in necessarily always being somewhat wrong. But I tend to think that any system which does not consistently subordinate the profit motive to democratic control (i.e., any system that is not some version of socialism) will eventually find itself captured by rent-seeking profit-maximizers. 1/

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Written by Kevin Russell on 2024-08-25 at 16:44

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There are two kinds of plastics, plastics that can be recycled to use again, and plastics that cannot be recycled.

Make non-recycleable plastics a crime. Tax wealth to clean up old plastic.

Running away from the costs of your enterprise is a moral and ethical crime, and must become a legal crime.

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Written by Gian M S on 2024-08-24 at 12:02

@jaywilliams ma perché se l'acqua non c'è la papera non galleggia perché ?

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Written by Moose Jolly Holcomb on 2024-08-24 at 12:20

@jaywilliams the bleakness of the idea that you needed a subscription in the first place to prevent ads interrupting pictures of your family is a pretty stark starting point, removing the ability to even pay for that subscription is even bleaker.

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Written by Alex Fürstenau on 2024-08-24 at 13:14

@jaywilliams @cammerman I would argue that you don‘t need to own most of your stuff. Quite the contrary, the less you own the better. On the other hand, the mentioned case is the worst of two worlds. You own the physical hardware but it‘s useless due to the software/service which you can‘t rent anymore.

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Written by Jasper 🍉 on 2024-08-24 at 15:39

@jaywilliams really you should be able to mess and determine with what's installed on there. Ideally it's mainline linux.

It could share a Syncthing folder, and just show that. Could even have a settings file on there.

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Written by Jay Williams on 2024-08-24 at 19:04

@jasper that’s not a bad idea at all, and would require zero subscriptions or fees. I use syncthing for my files, why not use them for a slideshow?

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Written by Giles Goat on 2024-08-24 at 16:03

@jaywilliams Where the world will go (end ?) when the connections to the "AI servers" for one reason or another will get ( temporary ?) broken ??

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Written by WvOostveen on 2024-08-24 at 18:09

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In wich catechory falls BMW that wants you to subscribe a monthly fee to use the seat heater in the car that you bought?

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Written by Jay Williams on 2024-08-24 at 19:03

@WvOostveen I’d argue you don’t own the seat heater at all, even though you “bought” it and pay for the gas to power it.

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Written by Eric Verdeil on 2024-08-24 at 18:44

@jaywilliams also thé case of Remarkable note taking devise...

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