Ancestors

Written by Thomas Depierre on 2024-08-20 at 22:14

Wait. Wat. Someone finally brought python to the 21st century? I may be able to unban python from my toolkit for scripts and programs? Fuck. Well. about damn time I guess

https://astral.sh/blog/uv-unified-python-packaging

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from Di4na@hachyderm.io

Written by d@nny mc² on 2024-08-20 at 22:29

@Di4na i interviewed for them and it was a lock until i asked about their monetization strategy

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

Written by Thomas Depierre on 2024-08-20 at 22:33

@hipsterelectron How I have ... well. Let's say I have no doubt that part will be bad. But that is ok, monetization strategy for these kind of tools are always bad because there is none that survive our current reality

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from Di4na@hachyderm.io

Written by d@nny mc² on 2024-08-20 at 22:36

@Di4na i'm just mad because i suspect financial incentives are part of why python tooling sucks

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

Written by Thomas Depierre on 2024-08-20 at 22:38

@hipsterelectron I doubt that tbh. But I am not the bearer of the only truth :D

I think the problem is simply that nearly all dev tools suck, we have just been lucky that a few people in a couple of visible community decided to lose their sanity and health trying to fix them and managed to do it.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from Di4na@hachyderm.io

Toot

Written by d@nny mc² on 2024-08-20 at 22:40

@Di4na i definitely think it's an easy pitch to VCs to make good tooling and a harder pitch to corps to let their engineers work on open source tooling vs enriching the corp and those incentives are part of why tooling always sucks even if nobody's trying to be actively evil

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

Descendants

Written by d@nny mc² on 2024-08-20 at 22:41

@Di4na andrew gallant writes great code and docs and i really wish i could have worked with him and i'm upset that when i tried to frame to charlie how i can sell his open source tool to open source programmers that he interpreted it as me trying to undermine his goals

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

Written by Thomas Depierre on 2024-08-20 at 22:44

@hipsterelectron I mean, totally fair. My point is usually that it needs really long term investment. I consider 10 years the minimum investment to start to get a viable tool that does a little bit of impact.

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from Di4na@hachyderm.io

Written by d@nny mc² on 2024-08-20 at 22:46

@Di4na luckily pants and spack have both passed that limit already

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

Written by d@nny mc² on 2024-08-20 at 22:48

@Di4na i'm thinking about a lot of stuff today, appreciate the discussion and please don't let me stop you from using uv, i will be interested to read your thoughts on it

=> More informations about this toot | More toots from hipsterelectron@circumstances.run