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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:07

I still just don't get braille screen input on iOS. I don't get it. In screen away mode, why would you have the dots horizontally and not vertically? My fingers want to automatically press them vertically. Like I would read them. I don't even know how I'd position my hands to do the horizontal inputs. Why not have your fingers from top to bottom? Like am I missing something here? That just feels very natural to do. But holding your phone, screen facing away, and then you have to place your fingers along the entire width of the thing in a straight line? If I hold my phone between two hands, screen facing away, my fingers automatically just orient themselves in two rows from top to bottom. On either side of the screen. Why can't I have it like that?

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:09

The one mode where it is like that is in tabletop mode. Except tabletop mode is just... the wrong way around? I don't know how else to explain this but no matter which way I flip my phone, the dots are never where I expect them to be. What is wrong with me? So many people are doing this just fine but I struggle so much with this. I know braille! I can read and write braille! Why is this so entirely unintuitive to me?

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:12

OK. In settings, you have a toggle to reverse dot positions. So that fixes it? Except that's still tabletop mode. And I have to force it into tabletop mode while holding it as if I'm using screen away mode. This is just... bad? I'm so confused.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:19

Hahahaha nevermind reverse dot positions reverses them in the exact way that I don't want. It doesn't mirror them. It just swaps the top and bottom dots. I'm going back to the normal direct touch keyboard I think.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:20

This happens every single time I try this stuff :(

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:22

Oh wait. OK. Reverse dot positions, and then flip the phone the opposite way that people tell me to flip it. That works.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:23

OK. So. Hold phone in screen away mode, locked to tabletop mode, reversed dot positions, with power button on top. That is my configuration. It's definitely not comfortable, but it works. I was able to type a sentence.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:23

Sorry BSI enthusiasts I'm not switching from my direct touch keyboard though.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:33

hi there im braille screen input.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:35

Missed the apostrophe but the rest was fine. I think this is the first time I ever got this to actually output proper text.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:44

The reason I like direct touch normal keyboard is it requires very little phone juggling. It's very quick to do. It also isn't full screen so I can still kind of explore the visible parts of the screen above the keyboard. I'd also say it's really quick to type with two thumbs but I suppose that's more familiarity than anything else. You can probably be pretty quick with BsI too especially with contracted braille input. I forgot a lot of my English contracted braille though so I'd have to relearn that. I only ever really read German contracted braille. Which obviously won't work well for typing in English

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Written by Clare Page on 2024-08-15 at 10:46

@talon I have to use uncontracted braille when typing German in BSI because I don't know a lot of the contractions: I use contracted braille for English and French, though.

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Written by Talon on 2024-08-15 at 10:48

@frog67 I did learn English braille contractions many, many, many years ago, but I never used them enough to not forget. If I read something I could probably fumble my way through and remember some of it, but it's definitely not enough for typing.

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Descendants

Written by Clare Page on 2024-08-15 at 10:53

@talon I learned a few German contractions years ago, but not enough to write German contracted braille.

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