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Written by QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world on 2024-08-07 at 16:12

Schrodinger's Privacy: Best Buy Needs Your Data to Stop Selling Your Data

https://lemmy.world/post/18386016

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Written by GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml on 2024-08-07 at 16:16

When the imposters are sus lol

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Written by Karyoplasma on 2024-08-07 at 16:33

“We and our 6472 vendors value your privacy.”

Why am I hesitant to believe they do?

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Written by sunzu on 2024-08-07 at 16:40

The government ain't gonna do shit for the peasants... We know this. Start acting like it.

Deny them profit and deny them data as much as possible.

These parasites only speak one language, act like it.

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Written by bobs_monkey@lemm.ee on 2024-08-07 at 17:51

A good first step would be to require all companies to make their mobile websites mirror the functionality of their app so we didn’t have to install so many fucking data vacuums on our phones

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Written by sunzu on 2024-08-07 at 17:58

Which government is gonna require something like this.

Which government has "political" will for this?

We are enslaved by the corpos who are allied with government to do this. I am down to lobby but my point above was more about what people should be doing themselves since the state won't do shit for us.

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Written by bobs_monkey@lemm.ee on 2024-08-07 at 18:14

Yeah that’s fair, I was of the mind of the hope that we the people could possibly shift things in our direction.

The biggest hurdle in all of this is that everything is set up in a way that the most affordable and convenient options are often the worst as far as privacy, Amazon being the biggest example, groceries being another. It takes an extraordinary amount of diligence (and let’s be real, income) to be able to side skirt corporate dominance in the goods market. Services like utilities and often house are pretty much fucked unless you can manage to move somewhere more off the grid.

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Written by Psychodelic@lemmy.world on 2024-08-07 at 18:30

Would that work for literally anything we/nations use government for though?

“The government won’t prevent companies polluting the environment, so just assume it’s every individual citizen’s responsibility” “the gov won’t ensure food is safe to eat, so just follow these tiktok channels because it’s ultimately your responsibility to know what companies are putting in the food you eat” or “the gov won’t protect consumers from unfair business practices so just don’t support companies that are have a monopoly in your area” (this last one clearly ain’t working and consumers clearly can’t do anything; thinking of Comcast or Ticketmaster here). Personally, I think the EPA, FDA and antitrust laws are as necessary as any other basic laws (along with people to enforce those laws).

People making the claim that we don’t need government intervention, or saying private citizens should be held responsible, for government-sanctioned practices are either delusional/willfully ignorant or fake actors trying to shift responsibility from the government which literally has the power to enact legislation.

Imo, the biggest responsibility citizens have is to hold their government accountable. Most Americans legit think all politicians are evil and stupid which really just goes to show that they can’t tell the difference between someone trying to fight for companies to pay fair overtime/holiday pay and someone fighting for us to invest in another war err I mean defense

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Written by sunzu on 2024-08-07 at 18:35

We pay them taxes but we can't hold them accountable... Even when we get a "W" like obamacare, it was really an L for vast majority of workers.

People should lobby and tell their parasite how they feel but in reality hurting profits is way more effective

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Written by Psychodelic@lemmy.world on 2024-08-07 at 19:22

You’re not definitely wrong that hurting profits is good leverage. It might actually be the best tool we have

I don’t remember where I heard it recently, but we really need to bring back the slogan “no taxation without representation”

Millennials barely have representation and gen z has maybe one representative. The US was legit founded by mostly young people. It’s nuts to see the contrast to today. It’s not even exaggerating to say this nation hates it’s younger citizens

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Written by edric on 2024-08-07 at 17:40

This is the same for most businesses that offer customers to delete (or stop selling) your data. You have to fill out forms with a bunch of very personal information for them to delete your data, which is a hassle. You don’t even know what data they have on you and may very well be providing even more info than what they have just by requesting to delete it. IMO they should just ask for a name. Hell, if you have an account with them, then it should be straightforward to proceed if it’s requested by a user who is logged into their account. They can even send a confirmation email or something to ensure the account wasn’t compromised.

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Written by ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org on 2024-08-08 at 03:24

Yeah, I once wanted to delete my Blizzard/battle.net account, just made with an old mail address, no personal data attached (at least from my side) and they wanted to see scans of my id.

After some back and forth I threatened them with a gdpr complaint and one day later they deleted the account, at least they said so.

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