Ancestors

Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 19:17

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/google-loses-dojs-big-monopoly-trial-over-search-business/

Action is still urgently needed to address the highly anti-competitive Google Mobiles Services licensing system and the Play Integrity API which are a major part of Google maintaining their monopolies over search and many parts of the mobile market.

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Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 19:19

We recently published a detailed thread about this here:

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/112878067304840664

We're in contact with the regulators in MULTIPLE countries about this. Don't fall for Google pretending Play Integrity API is security related or that their licensing system is about compatibility.

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Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 19:28

Android and Chromium would massively benefit from proper collaboration between stakeholders without Google's business model getting in the way. Should be forced to deal with both following the model of the LLVM Foundation and also spin off Google Play into an independent company.

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Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 19:30

Google is actively cracking down on competition in the mobile space by convincing app developers to use their Play Integrity API. Play Integrity API bans using operating systems not licensing Google's apps/services and agreeing to highly restrictive and anti-competitive terms.

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Written by Democracy Dies in Dumbass on 2024-08-06 at 19:53

@GrapheneOS I'm actually looking at going back to a flip phone... Fucking tired of the app-centric world.

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Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 20:36

@ShredderFeeder You won't have privacy/security using carrier-based calls rather than end-to-end encrypted messaging. Decent smartphones are also much more secure than desktops or laptops.

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Written by Hyolobrika on 2024-08-06 at 21:52

@GrapheneOS @ShredderFeeder What do you think of this one? https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp01-mobile-phone/

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Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 22:16

@Hyolobrika @ShredderFeeder It's not GrapheneOS despite being marketed that way. They forked from an old GrapheneOS release and didn't keep up with the newer releases. They ended up with lots of issues because of this. The devices also don't meet our security requirements. They aren't actually contributing back to the project either.

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Toot

Written by Hyolobrika on 2024-08-06 at 22:28

@GrapheneOS @ShredderFeeder I... don't think it runs GrapheneOS. It's not even a touchscreen phone.

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Descendants

Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 22:31

@Hyolobrika @ShredderFeeder They say the MC02 runs an OS based on GrapheneOS but it's still based on Android 13 since it's forked from an old release with a bunch of unclear changes made to it and hasn't kept up at all. They've had a lot of issues with sandboxed Google Play, etc. from not even keeping up with our ESR 13 branch, and we won't have those ESR devices anymore after the Pixel 5a is gone. Unclear about this but there's a high chance it's still based on AOSP.

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Written by Hyolobrika on 2024-08-06 at 22:45

@GrapheneOS @ShredderFeeder I accidentally linked to the MP01 when I meant to link to the MP02. But neither of those are the MC02, which seems to be an actual smartphone.

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Written by GrapheneOS on 2024-08-06 at 22:55

@Hyolobrika @ShredderFeeder We're pretty sure they all run a variant of AOSP but it's only the MC02 where they clearly claim it's based on a variant of GrapheneOS, which we find problematic when it's a year out-of-date and they changed a whole lot of things in strange ways.

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Written by m0xEE on 2024-08-06 at 22:49

@Hyolobrika

Android phones don't necessary have to use touchscreen, you can even use Android on a desktop computer. One of the early ARM NetBooks — Toshiba AC100 came with Android pre-installed.

I knew that it runs some Android, but I didn't know it's a fork of Graphene.

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