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Written by Suran on 2024-01-22 at 07:51

[#]Google is turning #GMail from an Email provider into a website.

No more access via standard email protocols such as #IMAP and #POP

Access via IMAP4 and POP3 as well as Mail Submission via SMTP require OAuth2 authentication via a web browser.

Probably according to RFC7628

The final stage of #enshittification . Locking the users in.

I wonder how they want to get rid of SMTP as stated in the support posting.

I guess this means outgoing SMTP to forward mail to a real email server.

I guess without relaying I won't ever receive any notifications Google services send to me again as I don't use the Gmail website.

I host my own Email server for many years, thank you.

Timeline for transition

Summer of 2024:

If you (or your users) try to connect to a less secure app for the first time, you will not be able to. This restriction includes third-party apps that still use basic authentication, such as CalDAV, CardDAV, IMAP, SMTP, and POP, to access Gmail, Google Calendar, and Contacts. If you’re not trying to connect for the first time, you will be able to continue using the apps until they’re turned off.

In the Google Admin console, you will not be able to access the turn on and off setting for less secure apps. 

Users will not be able to turn IMAP on or off in their Gmail settings.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/14114704?hl=en&sjid=8073259250606890309-EU

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Written by Al Puzzuoli on 2024-01-23 at 00:42

@Faylen @Suran I don't think this is as bad as it sounds. They're disabling the ability to log in with a basic username and password, but still allowing clients that support the oAuth method to login. Most modern email clients will be just fine. As noted on the Google Help page at the following link, "The latest versions of Outlook, Apple Mail, and Samsung Mail support OAuth". likely many others which they don't list already support it as well. https://support.google.com/a/answer/9003945?hl=en

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Written by Christy S on 2024-01-23 at 00:45

@alpuzz @Suran Yeah, a few people have explained that to me. I didn't realize what oAuth actually was.

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