●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 ●●

● Dec 28

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[01:10] techrightssec2 s/frivolous surveillance/frivolous harrassment/ ?

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● Dec 28

[04:09] schestowitz-TR with the spare time I've decided to devote some to explaining and showing what linuxhint has been up to

[04:09] schestowitz-TR drafts for 5am (misnight server time)

● Dec 28

[05:28] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.pussthecat.org/StigmabaseN/status/1607696099300765696#m

[05:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Stigmabase | NORDIC (@StigmabaseN): "TW : Witch-hunts Backfiring: Koala Charities Leveraged by Sirius Open Source as a Weapon Against the...: ...relative she has in the UK, had been diagnosed with an aggressive cancer and may need holidays to be confirmed (as many... http://dlvr.it/Sg0JqW" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org

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[07:42] schestowitz-TR lunduke uploading to youtube again, people ask why he deleted everything

[07:42] schestowitz-TR he says his asthma is back and he sounds like a smoker

[07:42] schestowitz-TR and he speaks in crypto about issues to sell subscription to articles

[07:42] schestowitz-TR without actually saying anything, to protect the paywall

[07:42] schestowitz-TR i rarely click to play/watch

[07:42] schestowitz-TR after this I'm less likely to

[07:42] schestowitz-TR also, what he says about mozilla is hardly new

[07:42] schestowitz-TR so far today has been quite productive

[07:42] schestowitz-TR exercise in 30 mins

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● Dec 28

[10:22] techrightssec2 Is this site legitimate? https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/12/more-shell-programming-secrets-nobody-talks-about

[10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.opensourceforu.com | More Shell Programming Secrets Nobody Talks About

[10:23] schestowitz-TR i wondered the same a week agoi

[10:23] schestowitz-TR it's a very weird site, but hit and miss

[10:23] schestowitz-TR don't think it is automated

[10:41] schestowitz-TR seems like msft layoffs rumours intensify

[10:41] schestowitz-TR based on web traffic in TR

[10:41] schestowitz-TR msft might delay to "prove" the rumours 'wrong'

[10:41] schestowitz-TR but it's coming

[10:41] schestowitz-TR https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/12/more-shell-programming-secrets-nobody-talks-about More Shell Programming Secrets Nobody Talks About

[10:46] techrightssec2 Overall layoffs at M$ are good but a harmful sideeffect is that the scum find

[10:46] techrightssec2 other employers and carry m$ toxic culture and products over to their new

[10:46] techrightssec2 paymasters, effectively still working for m$

[10:46] techrightssec2 One can hope...

[10:46] techrightssec2 "talent"

[10:46] schestowitz-TR some are on visa and not many companies hire

[10:46] schestowitz-TR so the "dead weight" might end up almost nowhere

[10:46] schestowitz-TR or so one can hope...nobody wants "WINDOWS TALENT" [sic]

[10:46] schestowitz-TR esp. now with constrained budgets

[10:48] schestowitz-TR look at it like this,

[10:48] schestowitz-TR where would you rather have them?

[10:48] schestowitz-TR in msft or outside?

[10:48] schestowitz-TR death is not an option

[10:48] schestowitz-TR is msft gets smaller, that's a plus

[10:48] schestowitz-TR i've just realises andy's series does not talk much about free softwware

[10:48] schestowitz-TR it looks at the dystophia from another level

[10:57] techrightssec2 not sure, it'd be best if there were a way to rehabilitate them but they lack

[10:57] techrightssec2 the mindset for computing and the ethics as well, so maybe outside of any

[10:57] techrightssec2 part of ICT and, especially, education would be enough distance

● Dec 28

[11:17] techrightssec2 Perhaps each segment can include a mention of how FOSS is useful in mitigating

[11:17] techrightssec2 or even reversing the dystopian trends.

[11:17] schestowitz-TR nuclear fusion hype https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/28/nuclear-fusion-dont-believe-the-hype/ | Source: Counter Punch

[11:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nuclear Fusion: Dont Believe the Hype! - CounterPunch.org

[11:26] schestowitz-TR opium... "He is partly right. Not only do governments invest in sports as a form of distraction" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/28/on-football-opium-and-popular-resistance-not-all-sports-are-created-equal/ | Source: Counter Punch

[11:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-On Football, Opium and Popular Resistance: Not All Sports Are Created Equal - CounterPunch.org

[11:36] schestowitz-TR is there still a way to retrieve paragraphs from bodies in commondreams

[11:36] schestowitz-TR they seem to have changed something over xmas, not it's empty like in truthout

[11:37] schestowitz-TR *now it's empty

[11:37] schestowitz-TR some other sites are too, but since ages ago

[11:48] techrightssec2 Checking

[11:48] techrightssec2 Thanks for spotting that. It should work correctly starting with tomorrow's feed, they had changed some of the c

[11:48] techrightssec2 lasses involved but otherwise the structure

[11:48] techrightssec2 was the same.

[11:48] techrightssec2 Which others need correction? As always scraping is brittle so if a single

[11:48] techrightssec2 letter or number changes in the wrong place, the script misses the information.

[11:51] schestowitz-TR Thanks, I think counterpunch still picks par 2-3 due to some old campaign that occupied par 1

● Dec 28

[12:01] techrightssec2 Checking, again

[12:07] schestowitz-TR maybe we could add some more

[12:07] schestowitz-TR but I'm not sure which

[12:07] schestowitz-TR many are not updating often

[12:07] techrightssec2 ok, counterpunch is now updated and the effects will be seen next time

[12:07] techrightssec2 thanks for spotting that one too

[12:08] schestowitz-TR going to ahve Daily Links soon

[12:08] schestowitz-TR more topics would help, might cover andy's thing too

[12:18] techrightssec2 FOSS is useful in mitigating or even reversing the dystopian trends.

[12:18] techrightssec2 ^ topic ?

[12:19] schestowitz-TR yes, I will tackle this angle and tell soms of my old stories of "IT dept" in universities

[12:19] schestowitz-TR they were awful in the later years

[12:19] schestowitz-TR flunkies basically

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[12:47] techrightssec2 corporate flunkies working against the university, and double handful of

[12:47] techrightssec2 resellers too

● Dec 28

[14:13] techrightssec2 The Manjaro link in "other" shows some persistent misunderstandings,

[14:13] techrightssec2 misinformation about the very nature of sw patents. Same for the latest

[14:13] techrightssec2 Brodie video in the same batch. Submarine patents are a threat for their

[14:13] techrightssec2 entire life cycle and unlike trademarks don't have to be enforced to be

[14:13] techrightssec2 kept valid. Like with GIF / LZW a standards-essential patent can be allowed and

[14:13] techrightssec2 even encouraged to spread far and wide so as to maximize the amount of money

[14:13] techrightssec2 harvested in the shakedown when the patent is enforced for the first time.

[14:13] techrightssec2 ^ topic ?

[14:13] techrightssec2 (and RMS is right about "IPR" being not only a misnomer but intentionally

[14:13] techrightssec2 confusing people on the separate topics)

[14:17] schestowitz-TR thanks, otax3

[14:17] psydruid how do these (western) patents hold up in countries like India, China and Russia?

[14:32] schestowitz-TR icbm lobbying india

[14:32] schestowitz-TR microsoft also

[14:32] schestowitz-TR and using IAM and other rags to shame those countries

[14:33] schestowitz-TR to assimilate

[14:49] schestowitz-TR done, writing now...

[14:49] schestowitz-TR x3

[14:49] techrightssec2 ack

[14:53] psydruid I would declare those companies "compania non grata"

[14:53] psydruid they don't do anything for India, but obey their US masters instead

[14:58] schestowitz-TR thanks, I might quote you on that

[14:58] schestowitz-TR made 3 videos

[14:58] schestowitz-TR one about swpats

[14:58] schestowitz-TR i think debian does not play ball because it's not in the US per se

[14:59] schestowitz-TR taking account of SPI and Murdock, it would seem USian

[14:59] schestowitz-TR but many devs are european

● Dec 28

[15:01] techrightssec2 ack

[15:18] schestowitz-TR draft

[15:45] schestowitz-TR just realised aral went under the radar for months

[15:45] schestowitz-TR added second draft while encoding still happening...

[15:53] schestowitz-TR fediverse = NO GO!

[15:53] schestowitz-TR "I HAVE THINGS TO DO!"

[15:53] schestowitz-TR btw, today I found out "my" bank has a 'web site' that's also "app"

[15:53] schestowitz-TR could not send money with rianne's JS blocker enabled

[15:53] schestowitz-TR it just gave some cryptic error message

[15:54] schestowitz-TR time wasted

[15:54] schestowitz-TR they think MOAR JS = MOAR security

[15:54] schestowitz-TR and the bank wants to allow 13 (!!!!!!) domains to run things!!

[15:54] schestowitz-TR what if one of them sduffered a beach?

[15:54] schestowitz-TR or rogue insider?

[15:54] schestowitz-TR or...

[15:54] techrightssec2 I noticed that a while back. He usually posts just past the middle of the month

[15:54] techrightssec2 each month.

[15:54] techrightssec2 Maybe there is something in the fediverse but that's a javascript-only "app"

[15:54] techrightssec2 nowadays

[15:57] techrightssec2 If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you

[15:57] techrightssec2 If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you will probably

[15:57] techrightssec2 find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/

[15:57] techrightssec2 will probably

[15:57] techrightssec2 find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/

[15:57] techrightssec2 If you check the depencency tree of the fully loaded "app" you will probably

[15:57] techrightssec2 find many external domains and dozens of javascripts. :/

[15:59] schestowitz-TR later they drone on and on about "supply chain"

[15:59] schestowitz-TR the real solution is

[15:59] schestowitz-TR as eu puts it

[15:59] schestowitz-TR self-host fonts and the like

[15:59] schestowitz-TR stop bouncing peoople back and forth

[15:59] schestowitz-TR but the people who went to "uni" learned frameworks

[15:59] schestowitz-TR and they lump them in

[15:59] schestowitz-TR that bouncing ball animiation might be a spurious framework

[15:59] schestowitz-TR all sorts of effects whose function does not justify the added risk and bloat

[15:59] techrightssec2 Precisely

[15:59] schestowitz-TR that will cause carbon emissions

● Dec 28

[16:02] techrightssec2 The more javascript is used the more bandwidth is consumed fetching the

[16:02] techrightssec2 frameworks and such and the more CPU is used on the client. Rather than

[16:02] techrightssec2 putting things server side, which can be more efficient overall in some cases,

[16:02] techrightssec2 the dogma is to push as much onto the clients as possible.

[16:02] schestowitz-TR edge computing = do things at the client side

[16:02] schestowitz-TR clown computing = outsource everything, send js crap to the client side

[16:02] schestowitz-TR abandoned = take a task and do it at the server end

[16:02] schestowitz-TR they have another term for that, ee.g. "data mining" or "big data" or "data science"

[16:02] schestowitz-TR HEY HI

● Dec 28

[17:05] techrightssec2 ack

[17:31] schestowitz-TR TM traffic leapt about 20% compared to prior months

[17:31] schestowitz-TR did not check why, does not matter much, but it's an encouraging sign

[17:32] schestowitz-TR good for morale

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