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[04:11] schestowitz-TR gm

[04:11] techrigthssec gm

[04:12] schestowitz-TR plenty of good progress

[04:12] schestowitz-TR disk space doubled

[04:12] schestowitz-TR main remaining tasks are

[04:12] schestowitz-TR daily links pipeline

[04:12] schestowitz-TR and irc stuff

[04:12] techrigthssec excellent #######################################

[04:12] techrigthssec by clearing old files or by adding new storage?

[04:13] schestowitz-TR debian 11

[04:13] schestowitz-TR brand new ssd

[04:13] schestowitz-TR tons of stuffed restored

[04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

[04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

[04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

[04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

[04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page

[04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

[04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

[04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page

[04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

[04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

[04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

[04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

[04:25] techrigthssec the archive?

[04:25] techrigthssec onto paper,

[04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

[04:25] techrigthssec the archive?

[04:25] techrigthssec ---

[04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

[04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

[04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce

[04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably

[04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

[04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

[04:25] techrigthssec the archive?

[04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper,

[04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating

[04:25] techrigthssec the archive?

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >>

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> I am missing that file.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >>

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Regards,

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >>

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] > I am too. It is not in Git.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] > Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] > file itself appears never to have entered the repository.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] Cheers!

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ?

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >>

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> I am missing that file.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >>

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Regards,

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >>

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] > I am too. It is not in Git.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] >

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] > Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] > file itself appears never to have entered the repository.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there.

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] Cheers!

[04:39] schestowitz[TR] PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year.

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[04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now

[04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next

[04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post

[04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it...

[04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now

[04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next

[04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post

[04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it...

[04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now

[04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next

[04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post

[04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it...

[04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now

[04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next

[04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post

[04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it...

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[07:28] techrigthssec "No IRC file for 2023-01-27 yet as of 2023-01-28 07:26:36 UTC.

[07:28] techrigthssec "

[07:28] techrigthssec np

[07:28] schestowitz-TR working on it atm ^_^

[07:44] schestowitz-TR only today there will be duplicate lines

[07:44] schestowitz-TR still testing and working on it #######################################

[07:44] schestowitz-TR making a two-machine redundancy thing

[07:44] schestowitz-TR only today there will be duplicate lines

[07:44] schestowitz-TR still testing and working on it #######################################

[07:44] schestowitz-TR making a two-machine redundancy thing

[07:44] schestowitz-TR only today there will be duplicate lines

[07:44] schestowitz-TR still testing and working on it #######################################

[07:44] schestowitz-TR making a two-machine redundancy thing

[07:44] schestowitz-TR for the logs

[07:56] schestowitz-TR very pleased by speed of recovery

[07:56] schestowitz-TR inc.. hw repairs

[07:56] schestowitz-TR expect some creases at first

[07:56] techrigthssec ack

[07:56] techrigthssec nice

[07:56] techrigthssec I presume a local shop had a suitable SSD. It normmally take a week or two at

[07:56] techrigthssec least otherwise

● Jan 28

[08:36] techrigthssec trying

[08:36] techrigthssec IRC logs have duplicate lines

[08:36] schestowitz-TR yes, i have corrected for the next day

[08:36] schestowitz-TR did a lorof testing too

[08:51] techrigthssec It turns out that the lines really are duplicares, so it may be that piping

[08:51] techrigthssec the files through uniq will solve that.

[08:54] schestowitz-TR yeah, this is solved going forward

[08:54] schestowitz-TR ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi

[08:54] schestowitz-TR maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive?

[08:54] schestowitz-TR i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not

[08:54] schestowitz-TR also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux

[08:54] schestowitz-TR it would be nice to figure out how to free up time

[08:54] schestowitz-TR to do more articles

[08:54] schestowitz-TR i already sleep little ^_^

[08:54] schestowitz-TR took a ton of rss obboard

[08:54] schestowitz-TR this is good if well managed

● Jan 28

[09:00] techrigthssec Oops not qiute

[09:00] techrigthssec How are you and Rianne at XML in Python?

[09:01] schestowitz-TR yeah, this is solved going forward

[09:01] schestowitz-TR ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi

[09:01] schestowitz-TR maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive?

[09:01] schestowitz-TR i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not

[09:01] schestowitz-TR also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux

[09:01] schestowitz-TR it would be nice to figure out how to free up time

[09:01] schestowitz-TR to do more articles

[09:01] schestowitz-TR i already sleep little ^_^

[09:01] schestowitz-TR took a ton of rss obboard

[09:01] schestowitz-TR this is good if well managed

[09:01] schestowitz-TR just had kitchen chat about this, 5-20 min

[09:01] schestowitz-TR doing more coding to take itfurther would be nice

[09:01] schestowitz-TR the progreams are all force multipliers

[09:01] schestowitz-TR and other sites cannot keep up

[09:39] schestowitz-TR looking at least rss_since

[09:40] schestowitz-TR i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper

[09:40] schestowitz-TR maybe almost identical to another

[09:40] schestowitz-TR but taking another list of URLs

[09:40] schestowitz-TR from a file

[09:40] schestowitz-TR that might explain why git does not have it?

[09:40] schestowitz-TR looking at least rss_since

[09:40] schestowitz-TR i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper

[09:40] schestowitz-TR maybe almost identical to another

[09:40] schestowitz-TR but taking another list of URLs

[09:40] schestowitz-TR from a file

[09:40] schestowitz-TR that might explain why git does not have it?

[09:58] techrigthssec The XML in OPML is very simple, not much more complex than DL in HTML

● Jan 28

[10:01] schestowitz-TR ryan just wrote about cnet getting caught spewing out hey hi garbage as articles

[10:01] schestowitz-TR i think the www will leave people fatigued and cynical

[10:01] schestowitz-TR either way, i am happy to have this new drive

[10:01] schestowitz-TR maybe this lapto can last 5 years now

[10:01] schestowitz-TR newer distro too

[10:01] schestowitz-TR i still need to adjust it

[10:01] schestowitz-TR took my sister a week to adapt after debian 0 to 11 shock

[10:01] schestowitz-TR i cannot find any way to install synergy so fat

[10:01] schestowitz-TR (far

[10:01] schestowitz-TR the company wants money

[10:01] schestowitz-TR but i have contingencies

[10:02] techrigthssec I would have thought that Devuan would be a good choice.

[10:02] techrigthssec Barrier is the FOSS equivalent to Synergy iirc

[10:02] schestowitz-TR i used both in tabdem

[10:02] schestowitz-TR it was hard to configure this week

[10:02] schestowitz-TR and i forgot how i did it

[10:09] techrigthssec I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later

[10:12] schestowitz-TR i think i'd like to think laterally for a bit how to better assess ad survey news over rss

[10:12] schestowitz-TR i have been doing the same thing for 20 years

[10:12] schestowitz-TR there must be a better way then rssown, thunderbird, and quiterss

[10:12] schestowitz-TR for instance, clustering of related theme

[10:12] schestowitz-TR more efficiency means broader coverage, faster

[10:12] schestowitz-TR each time i rebuild it gives a change to start afresh with another approach/focus

[10:12] schestowitz-TR i've not yet restored quiterss, only installed it

[10:15] techrigthssec I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later

[10:15] techrigthssec One way would be to read the OPML file into a database and then use the

[10:15] techrigthssec database to fetch the feeds which are ready for fetching and create an HTML

[10:15] techrigthssec file of the results to browse. The advantage is that the real browsers are

[10:15] techrigthssec much better suited for browsing than QuiteRSS and its competitors are. The

[10:15] techrigthssec biggest down side is that no browsers allow markign a link as "unread".

[10:15] techrigthssec Doing it in Perl would be relatively easy and quite good qualitu but for

[10:15] techrigthssec political purposes Python3 would be a more strategic option since certain

[10:15] techrigthssec communities are investing in Python training.

[10:15] schestowitz-TR in 2005 ish [h]omerfrom cols/usenet, who slaso started our irc channel in freenode, developed

[10:15] schestowitz-TR a parser in python for rss feeds, for usenet

[10:15] schestowitz-TR but it didn't go far, it did not do anything too witty

[10:16] techrigthssec The OPML input is easy, and there seem to be good XML parsers for Python3

[10:16] techrigthssec but the examples provided in the documentation are simmplistic to the point\

[10:16] techrigthssec of being almost irrelevant

[10:21] schestowitz-TR good

[10:21] schestowitz-TR to put it one way, next 5 days might be slow/catching up

[10:21] schestowitz-TR but i expect the next 5 years to be good and productive

[10:21] schestowitz-TR with so many hours freed up and proper sleep

[10:21] schestowitz-TR i want to work on processing of information

[10:21] schestowitz-TR this can also be done for geminispace

[10:21] schestowitz-TR at a much smaller scale

[10:21] schestowitz-TR the core issue many have is,

[10:21] schestowitz-TR too much 'information'

[10:21] schestowitz-TR with so littke signal

[10:21] schestowitz-TR sites that parrot PR

[10:21] schestowitz-TR sometimes varghese does this too (again)

[10:21] schestowitz-TR i am going to move all video making to obs studio and alter preview.sh to do the metadata right

[10:22] schestowitz-TR i have worked to make the pipeline less dependent on one physical machine

[10:23] schestowitz-TR 8 machines here are always turned on with undertilised CPUs/capacity

[10:23] schestowitz-TR we get fibre this coming week, this time they do is PROPERLT

[10:23] schestowitz-TR not experimental like summer 2021

[10:24] techrigthssec How fast fibre will it be? If there is a price difference for faster there

[10:24] techrigthssec is not much point in going over 100Mb/s because nearly every web server

[10:24] techrigthssec is sluggish and the pages they serve clogged with remote objects and scripts

[10:24] techrigthssec to ensure that the page does not render faster than 15 seconds any way

[10:24] schestowitz-TR exactly

[10:24] schestowitz-TR i told them that

[10:43] schestowitz-TR that is the equivalent of my unis and clients that get 128 core machines

[10:43] schestowitz-TR that are like... idle 80% of the time

[10:43] schestowitz-TR so the capacity only helps bursts

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[12:26] schestowitz[TR] mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-latest-tmp.8FuruXm' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/latest-news.html': Permission denied

[12:26] schestowitz[TR] Writing the RSS feed for HTTP

[12:26] schestowitz[TR] mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-xhtml-tmp.tr9ADHx' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/feed.xml': Permission denied

[12:28] schestowitz-TR just wondered if work is being done there

[12:28] schestowitz-TR happened twice, node seems to be saved, but the above happens

[12:35] techrigthssec try now

[12:35] techrigthssec just folded blogs into the document root but it may have disturbed some of the

[12:35] techrigthssec directory permissions despite best efforts

[12:35] schestowitz-TR thanks, it is ok now

[12:38] techrigthssec Great. Sorry about the disturbance

[12:38] techrigthssec See now http://news.tuxmachines.org/blog/

[12:38] techrigthssec Some of the static links there might be adjusted but the main problematic

[12:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Blogs | Tux Machines

[12:38] techrigthssec links like for login or registration have been deactivated.

[12:39] schestowitz-TR thanks, some of the links ther work, some do not

[12:39] techrigthssec Which do not?

[12:40] schestowitz-TR individual pages of the posts for example

[12:43] techrigthssec Can you give some examples, the ones I tested work so it appears that parts

[12:43] techrigthssec may be missing but which ones?

[12:43] schestowitz-TR oddly enough the same pages seem to work now^_^

[12:47] techrigthssec That was the IDS apparently. It is not yet tuned to the new pages :(

[12:47] techrigthssec I'll leave it off for now, but will have to add more conditionals to it.

[12:48] schestowitz-TR thanks for that!\

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● Jan 28

[13:05] techrigthssec It'll need to be tuned properly since it will turn on in its current

[13:05] techrigthssec incarnation (or whatever is saved) at next reboot

[13:24] techrigthssec The Apache2 logs have not been rotating, there seem to have been double

[13:24] techrigthssec configurations there for logrotate.d

[13:24] techrigthssec Checking

[13:24] techrigthssec There is an error in ssl.conf for apache2

[13:24] techrigthssec The file itself was in the way because the main configuration file covers TLS

[13:24] techrigthssec nowadays.

[13:24] techrigthssec It was from 17 jan. I wonder if apk packaging does that with the updates?

[13:24] techrigthssec I sure hope not.

[13:24] schestowitz-TR rotstion of the access logs almost never worked

[13:24] schestowitz-TR since august

[13:31] techrigthssec Ok. Log rotation /should/ work now. I just checked via the daily shell script

[13:31] techrigthssec The defective SSL file has been moved out of the way, but there is a small

[13:31] techrigthssec question about the Certificate since it generates a warning.

[13:31] techrigthssec """

[13:31] techrigthssec server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE

[13:31] techrigthssec """

[13:31] techrigthssec I wonder if the system updates themselves break the custom rotation rules?

[13:55] techrigthssec Hmm. The blogs should have gone under /old

[13:55] techrigthssec I wonder if it is feasible to try to move them.

[13:55] techrigthssec Probably not since it would require doing modifications to many, many href

[13:55] techrigthssec attributes.

[13:56] schestowitz-TR i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end

[13:56] techrigthssec git pull origin master

[13:56] techrigthssec or do you mean clone ?

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[14:00] schestowitz-TR i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end

[14:00] schestowitz-TR need to first configure where to connect

[14:00] schestowitz-TR the keys work for ssh

[14:00] techrigthssec Yes that configuration data goes in ~/.ssh/config

[14:00] techrigthssec so then you can do:

[14:00] techrigthssec git clone tm-git:tuxmachines.org

[14:00] techrigthssec or some other shortcut

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[14:16] schestowitz-TR is there a particular identityfile?

[14:17] techrigthssec The key that you log in with to tm-new can be used.

[14:44] techrigthssec Where you able to clone the tm repository?

[14:45] schestowitz-TR unfortunately no

[14:54] techrigthssec Can you SSH to tm-new as 'roy' ?

[14:54] techrigthssec It looks like you can. The same key and such should give you access to Git

[14:54] techrigthssec Ah. Found a bug.

[14:54] techrigthssec Checking...

[14:59] techrigthssec You'll need a proper entry in ~/.ssh/config for news.tuxmachines.org

[14:59] techrigthssec It must include both IdentityFile and IdentityOnly and it would be a good idea

[14:59] techrigthssec if it also includes User too

[14:59] techrigthssec then

[14:59] techrigthssec git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org

[14:59] techrigthssec that path is modifiable

● Jan 28

[15:03] schestowitz-TR warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

[15:05] schestowitz-TR big progress though

[15:05] schestowitz-TR thank you

[15:05] schestowitz-TR i almost caught up with all of the links you sent today and yesterdy

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[15:52] schestowitz-TR did not sleep much last night

[15:52] schestowitz-TR still catching up

[15:52] schestowitz-TR made massive progres today though!

[15:52] schestowitz-TR i want to soon figure out how to better analyse and assess feeds

[15:52] schestowitz-TR the, today I thought of a way to also apply camelcase to them in TM

[15:52] schestowitz-TR gn

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[23:05] techrigthssec git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org; cd tuxmachines; git checkout master;

[23:05] techrigthssec ^cd tuxmachines.org

[23:05] techrigthssec XOR

[23:05] techrigthssec git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org -b master

[23:20] schestowitz-TR done :))))

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